*On Behalf Of *RickG
> *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 10:40 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
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> Steve,
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> After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the "warm
> & fuzzies" about
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Steve,
After several
firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the "warm &
fuzzies" about my Ro
Netstream has worked to do this for years.
My first PtMP backhaul system was TurboCell based. did us fine for
years.
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote:
Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea!
I shall steal it from you and ma
t.
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> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Barnes"
> To: "WISPA General List"
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Capped with a dummy load? Or do you have the chain (transmitter) off
via configuration?
Greg
On 9/14/10 12:57 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:
> I'd argue you'd be better off trying to add a second AP to the sector, and
> be satisfied with fewer customers per sector. That would also allow you to
> ahve
less Broadband
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Barnes"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
I guess I didn't make myself clear. They are not concerned about slow
speeds of downloads more of a matter
ut just using it as part of the big
> vision.
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> Hm
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> Me-
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> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:51 PM
&g
September 14, 2010 8:56 AM
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> First at the interface level, you need to enable WMM.
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> Then I set up the following rules which ensures that DSCP sets layer 2
> priority WMM needs:
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&g
e tool bucket.
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> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *RickG
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a.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Bret Clark
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:56 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
First at the interface level, you need to enable WMM.
Then I set up the following rules which ensures that DSCP sets layer 2
priority WMM
At 9/14/2010 01:56 AM, Robert West wrote:
>You be right! I have one hub with multiple backhauls on it. My problem was
>always the sectors being 15 to 19dbi gain but the grids being a good 29. My
>furthest out is 20 miles, not good for a 15dbi sector, but most other AP's
>can see the hub's secto
First at the interface level, you need to enable WMM.
Then I set up the following rules which ensures that DSCP sets layer 2
priority WMM needs:
"/ip firewall mangle
add action=set-priority chain=prerouting comment="VoIP WMM " disabled=no
new-priority=from-dscp passthrough=yes protocol=\
What specific rules did you add for your voip.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 14, 2010, at 5:21 AM, Bret Clark wrote:
> We enabled it both in the CPE and AP. We also added queue rules in both the
> CPE and AP to ensure that VoIP traffic got priority not just at layer 2, but
> layer 3.
>
> On
We enabled it both in the CPE and AP. We also added queue rules in both
the CPE and AP to ensure that VoIP traffic got priority not just at
layer 2, but layer 3.
On 09/13/2010 10:43 PM, RickG wrote:
Did you do that in your firewall, the ap, or both?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bret Clark
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Robert West
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Yep. Just one last lonely 433 board with an XR2 card. However we DO st
e before you execute - snow
or not...
Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
877-804-3001 x102
From: "Steve Barnes"
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:16 PM
To: "WISPA General List"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
I guess I
un...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 11:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote:
>Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea!
>
>I shall steal it from you and
Kinky.
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
I know a guy in Florida who put up a PTP link for every customer! Of course,
that
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Your welcome! I put them up earlier this year. The first station was a
RocketM5 Dish, 13 miles out. Truly set it and forget it! It worked so well
that it threw me for a loop when I had issues wit
3, 2010 11:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
probably a mikrotik router or two
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM, RickG wrote:
> Whats the .001 unit?
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> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Robert West
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I know a guy in Florida who put up a PTP link for every customer! Of course,
that was from the rooftop of a high rise.
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote:
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> >Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea!
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> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *RickG
> *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 10:40 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
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> Steve,
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At 9/13/2010 10:43 PM, Robert West wrote:
>Yo, dude! Sectors acting as backhaul? Now I LIKE that idea!
>
>I shall steal it from you and make it my own.
>
>Nuff said.
Why not? I'm working on a design now that has 15-20 access points
fed from a sector antenna on a tower. (I couldn't put that
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Steve Barnes
>> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:32 PM
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>> Subject: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
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>> All my APs are Mikrotik. My CP
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> All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a
> AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns.
> They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802
>From what I can tell, any legacy radio, including UBNT's own do not get
along with "M" AP's. I've had issues and have been switching out "M" AP's
for standard UBNT units on my repeaters to resolve the problem. Once I have
client base switched out to "M" units, I'll switch back to "M" AP's. M&M's -
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Steve,
After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the "warm
& fuzzies" about my RocketM5 sectors. These 4 sectors are on my main tower
and are backhauls for my whole network! I have not had time to work with
Did you do that in your firewall, the ap, or both?
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Bret Clark wrote:
> We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to
> ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our
> users.
>
>
> On 09/13/2010 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman
Steve,
After several firmware updates and configurations, I finally have the "warm
& fuzzies" about my RocketM5 sectors. These 4 sectors are on my main tower
and are backhauls for my whole network! I have not had time to work with my
2.4 sectors since the last go around was a flop. After upgradin
Works fine. I’m now 99.999% UBNT!
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:32 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo
I have 50 to 70 clients on a b MT AP and it handles it fine. I've even heard
of over 100 on a only-g MT AP.
Chris
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Barnes"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plung
51 service off this
>> tower. I feed it with a 20Mb Link.
>>
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>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Monday,
.@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
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More than 50 per any AP and you're running out of bandwidth.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solution
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Of Mike Hammett
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More than 50 per any AP and you're running out of bandwidth.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
..@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
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> experience here shows sub 50 as a max - for the price point - it
> cannot be beat however
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> On Sep 13, 2010,
Support
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*Date: *Mon, 13 Sep 2010 14:30:04 -0400
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Forbes, so are you saying: if I change and go
t;
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> Steve Barnes
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> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
> boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plung
In my experience Tranzeo and UBNT don't play nice together. If you
don't mind switching out your tranzeo CPE's with UBNT gear you'll be fine.
Steve Barnes wrote:
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> All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I
> have a AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get compl
eptember 13, 2010 3:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
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> experience here shows sub 50 as a max - for the price point - it cannot be
> beat however
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> On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
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>Po
reless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Glenn Kelley
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 3:14 PM
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experience here shows sub 50 as a max - for the price point - it cannot be
beat however
On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:54
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*On Behalf Of *Forbes Mercy
*Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2010 2:11 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
>From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy
when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units,
gt;
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
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> >From personal experience I can tell you that you
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Forbes, so are you saying: if I change and go to a Rocket with Airmax dual
pol antenna and I have a client with a UBNT Bullet M2 HP Connected to a
Laird 24Dbi Grid Vertical only
...@wispa.org] On
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> >From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when
> you make the switch. I just repl
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>From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy when you
>make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units, pings went from
>their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no ma
We enabled WMM on our Mikrotik's and then just added a Mangle rule to
ensure the DSCP was marked correctly, this solved VoIP issues for our users.
On 09/13/2010 02:20 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said
> "complaints about slowdowns". I would
I see, you're talking about quality not raw speeds - you said
"complaints about slowdowns". I would say TDMA would be the best bet
to solve this problem cost effectively.
If you half the channel size, half the number of clients. Not the
other way around.
>Can the UBNT co-exist
Contract issues
Can the UBNT co-exist with MT APs in the same environment or will the
UBNT wipe out all other 802.11x based APs on nearby channels within
hearing distance?
On 9/13/2010 1:10 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote:
> >From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy
> when you make the switch.
eless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
Or have you tried different channels? Is it a newer radio in the MT
so you can do a spectrum analysis?
I
From personal experience I can tell you that you will be very happy
when you make the switch. I just replaced three Mikrotik BH/AP units,
pings went from their rather wild 30-120ms swings to a steady 15ms no
matter what time. Just be ready for three things, you can't put
usernames in the ACL
his one AP.
>
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> Steve Barnes
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> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:34 PM
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> Subject: R
:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
*On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now?
On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, &q
eneral List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now?
On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, "Steve Barnes"
mailto:st...@pcswin.com>> wrote:
All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE's are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP
with 58 Client
What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now?
On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, "Steve Barnes" wrote:
All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a
AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns.
They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g
All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE’s are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT. I have a AP
with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns. They are
all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g. This is a tower that due to contractual
issues I cannot add anymore equipment. So I am considering ta
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