..@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:14 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)
>
> ARGH!
>
> I was late (even by pacific time, I wonder if they wait until Hawaii
> time before they
at this point in time no one
> seems to be able to help us out down here.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:49 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] sp
:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of John Thomas
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:53 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> Are you saying that it is not practical for you to get a T-1 so that you
> can legitimately run BGP and multi hom
> Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial
> > DS3.
> >
> > 10mb: $4300
> > 20mb: $4788
> > 30mb: $5300
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wi
AT&T's deal is based on the loops being under 25 miles. There's another
price for 25 to 50 miles. I think it's also a 2xT minimum or something
like that.
I'm almost at capacity on my 4xT circuit. I have been trying to pull a
tricky deal with them but so far it's not working. My territory is
Some are in areas that will never support that much overhead.
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From: "Richey"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> That&
wow.
i can get that for way under 2k...
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From: "Brad Belton"
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> Agreed
>
> I lo
11:22 AM
To: rku...@colusanet.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Depends on the loop. My CO is a tandem and there are at least 6 different
carriers there (Qwest, AT&T, MCI, Sprint, Lightcore, and Norlight first come
to mind), but I'm still $5k - $7k for a DS3
009 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> Peter & Matt, some one's knocking
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent
Peter & Matt, some one's knocking
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:22 AM
To: rku...@colusanet.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Depen
ssage-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:22 AM
To: rku...@colusanet.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Depends on the loop. My CO is a tandem and there are at least 6 diff
price match
ACC but they did.
/Eje
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From: "Mike Hammett"
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:02:57
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
I'm going back through my contacts for you.
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From: "Rick Kunze"
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> They're close to 1/2 that now.
>
> Rk
>
> On 3/17/2009 8:22 PM, Cha
] speaking of ARIN
They're close to 1/2 that now.
Rk
On 3/17/2009 8:22 PM, Chadd Thompson wrote:
> Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial
> DS3.
>
> 10mb: $4300
> 20mb:
On 3/18/2009 7:13 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> I only call the telco once on billing problems now. If that doesn't fix it
> I call the PUC.
I concur. That REALLY gets their attention. I did it with my LEC some
years back when Frontier was still Citizens. Now I call them
Frontizens. Once I
On 3/17/2009 8:49 PM, RickG wrote:
> Of course, they'll bill you 10 times that and never fix their billing
> issues! -RickG
This is also true!
Rk
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They're close to 1/2 that now.
Rk
On 3/17/2009 8:22 PM, Chadd Thompson wrote:
> Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial
> DS3.
>
> 10mb: $4300
> 20mb: $4788
> 30mb: $5300
>
>
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From: "Richey"
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:02 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> That's still a pretty hard thing for a small provider to swallow when they
> are starting out.
>
>
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From: "Chadd Thompson"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> Been there done that.
>
> We were getting double billed for about 8 months because they didn't
> remov
neral List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Hi Mike,
I can't agree more!
Circuit diversity is really difficult in some remote areas though. Many
times, bringing redundant circuits in via licensed links is the ONLY way to
get true diversity.
Regards,
Jeff
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lf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I
> won't
> say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k.
> 20mb: $4788
> 30mb: $5300
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> It w
Regards,
>
> Jeff
> ImageStream
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:35 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
a.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
You should engineer your network to take advantage of BGP instead of being
afraid of it. BGP will bring you closer to more parts o
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From: "Richey"
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:45 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> Why should you HAVE to pay for something tha
-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Richey
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:46 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Why should you HAVE to pay for something that you really will never use? I
read about guys in rural areas that are still paying $700+ for a T1. Even
at $
; 30mb: $5300
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> It would be pos
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> It would be possible to get a wirel
your traffic
rolls over to the T1.
Richey
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:53 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
Are you saying that it is not prac
The policy should be different for an ISP. If you are a small ISP
>>> multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22. It makes it hard for
>>> the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks
>>> are non portable.
>>>
>>> /rant
@wispa.org]on
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I won't
> say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well
ssage-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Cliff Olle
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 days
or they cou
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I won't
say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k.
The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet
justification.
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Mike Hammett
Intell
ovider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks
> are non portable.
>
> /rant off
>
> Richey
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Cliff Olle
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:0
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From: "Richey"
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:39 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> /rant on
>
> Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in
No.
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From: "Cliff Olle"
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:01 AM
To: "'WISPA General List'"
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> I w
time after
>>> receiving 1hr 15 min.
>>>
>>> Don Renner
>>> NetsurfUSA
>>> 812-936-4514
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Dylan
a.org] On
> > Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:40 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)
> >
> > If you're asking about form 477 the due date is in 22 minutes.
> >
7;WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 days
or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you are
only using 4 class Cs?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.
They won't even come knocking on your door if you don't file at all, so I think
you'll be okay.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Randy Cosby
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] s
gt;
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:40 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)
>
> If you're askin
-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Randy Cosby
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 3:14 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)
ARGH!
I was late (even by pacific time, I wonder if they wait until Hawaii
time before they mak
-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dylan Bouterse
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:40 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN (form 477 comments)
If you're asking about form 477 the due date is in 22 minutes.
http://www.fcc.gov/form477/
JUST got ours in 20 min ago. Shew!!! Only too
: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Scott Piehn
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP.
>
>
> Sco
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP.
Scott
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From: "John Thomas"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:
One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP.
Scott
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From: "John Thomas"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> If you are multihomed you need to justify a /2
the data into FCC acceptabledata. I'll keep my comments to
myself on this.
Dylan
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
What i
@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
What is the due date for that form?
Cliff Olle wrote:
With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the
f
If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if
you are not, then you will need to justify a /20 ( 16 class C's)
John
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and
> will need more pretty soon in one location.
>
> A
.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolut
Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>
> oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:56 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster?
We don't ever TRACK most of what they want.
sig
you feel better?
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From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
To: "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster?
>
>
crap out.
My poor office manager is about ready to quit over this!
g
marlon
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From: "Scott Piehn"
To: ; "WISPA General List"
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
> agreed
>
> When we had speci
;> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List"
>> Subject: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN
>>
>> We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's
> and
>> will need
You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its
easy.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer"
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM
> To: "WISPA General List"
> S
We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and
will need more pretty soon in one location.
Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process?
marlon
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