Steve Stroh wrote:
Mark:
You're overlooking one critical difference between PCs and Wireless
systems.
PCs are UNintentional radiators, with radiated power levels that are
very, very low.
Wireless systems are intentional radiators, at significant power
levels, and through unintended
Tom DeReggi wrote:
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4) We discussed the option for self/group effort to certifying gear
combinations. It won't be an option that will be viable. It must be a
Manufacturer that applied for equipment certification, as there must
be an accountable/responsible/liable party. A
Sam Tetherow wrote:
So are you saying that a PCMCIA card with software and internal antenna
is not certified?
No one has yet to answer this question for me. Is it legal for Best Buy
to sell DLink/Linksys/Netgear/Belkin/... pcmcia cards for laptops? What
about USB dongles? If they are
George Rogato wrote:
Sam Tetherow wrote:
So are you saying that a PCMCIA card with software and internal
antenna is not certified?
No one has yet to answer this question for me. Is it legal for Best
Buy to sell DLink/Linksys/Netgear/Belkin/... pcmcia cards for
laptops? What about USB
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You must not have little kids like I do! They got me up nice and early
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On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:25:19 -0600, Sam Tetherow wrote
Steve Stroh wrote:
When a WISP slaps together a system, do they hook it up to a spectrum
analyzer to insure that substantially all the radiated energy is
contained within the desired band? No, they don't.
When a WISP slaps
, February 19, 2007 8:49 AM
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First off Patrick, we will be going to the carpet in a few minutes when
I get my thoughts collected. I just woke up an hour ago and am sometimes
a little sluggish in the early hours.
2nd, Dlink, Linksys
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No little kids here. Mine are all grown. One is the admin for
OregonFAST.net and the other 2 are pc techs here as well.
2 of them are actually owners of this business.
My wife mentioned having another but at 49, I'm
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No little kids here. Mine are all grown. One is the admin for
OregonFAST.net and the other 2 are pc techs here as well.
2 of them are actually owners of this business.
My
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:) Nothing like cuddling up with the girls while they are still in their
footy PJs. Of course, the dog likes to pile in too.
Patrick
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 09:27:18 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007, Tom DeReggi wrote:
The idea behind component certification and filing DoC type of
certifications, is that there IS a sticker, and that sticker refers to a
filing that describes EXACTLY what's in the box, whether
Good job Tom, George and Brent.
I personally have not done my due diligence in filing form 477, but will now
put it on my priority list.
It is good to hear about the 5.4GHz, hope the vendors will follow suit.
Victoria Proffer
www.stlbroadband.com
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Mark,
wireless ISP, exactly why would you know about it? Wireless guys are more
likely to have some knowlege of the FCC.. non-wireless... The FCC is foreign
and irrelevant to them.
This argument is moot considering they were talking about WISP's,
specifically, not non wireless guys.
Mark:
You're overlooking one critical difference between PCs and Wireless
systems.
PCs are UNintentional radiators, with radiated power levels that are
very, very low.
Wireless systems are intentional radiators, at significant power
levels, and through unintended mixing, have the
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Steve Stroh wrote:
When a WISP slaps together a system, do they hook it up to a
spectrum analyzer to insure that substantially all the radiated
energy is contained within the desired band? No, they don't.
As odd as it may sound, I am in agreement with Mark on this one.
Thanks for your summary Tom. I not even going to pretend to be surprised
by anything they mentioned -- as your meeting only validates my recent
posts on the subject, no matter how much so many reject what I say as
opinion and no matter how many think these are matters of choice. They
are not. When
I, for one, agree with Butch.
Parts certification is the way it needs to go.
Hold the part manufactures responsible for their published numbers.
Allow operators to mix-n-match parts as they see fit, within the power
limits. Hold operators responsible for their EIRP numbers.
This would
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:17:09 -0800, Steve Stroh wrote
Mark:
You're overlooking one critical difference between PCs and Wireless
systems.
I merely used PC's because anyone who's been around the PC business for a few
years will be aware of the change that occurred a while back that allowed
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:02:09 -0600 (CST), Butch Evans wrote
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Steve Stroh wrote:
As odd as it may sound, I am in agreement with Mark on this one.
Mark went into detail about how it can (and should) be accomplished.
For example:
As much as we've had our differences and
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I, for one, agree with Butch.
Parts certification is the way it needs to go.
Hold the part manufactures responsible
, 2007 2:38 AM
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:47:27 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote
We just got back from FCC and FTC visits yesterday. A couple notes...
1) Both meetings had full staff attending, which I consider an
honor. Each meeting lasted about 2 hours
Tom, George Brent,
I just want to thank you men for taking the time, money and effort to be
there for all of us. I appreciate the great update on the meetings as well.
I look forward to my turn even though I don't have the time - -I feel its
each of our duties to make the time.
Thanks,
Mac
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:47:27 -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote
We just got back from FCC and FTC visits yesterday. A couple notes...
1) Both meetings had full staff attending, which I consider an
honor. Each meeting lasted about 2 hours.
2) Some of the WISPs had to cancel due to weather, but 3
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