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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
A modern marketing mistake created this mess. A company started to
sell a product that it was incapable of delivering: unlimited network
access. Other companies followed suit and assumed that they would
never
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- Original Message - From: Tony Weasler
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A modern marketing mistake created this mess
, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
A modern marketing mistake created this mess. A company started to
sell a product that it was incapable of delivering: unlimited network
access. Other companies followed suit and assumed that they would
never
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 1:07 PM
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Hi,
The water at my home
Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
A modern marketing mistake created this mess. A company started to
sell a product that it was incapable of delivering: unlimited network
access. Other companies followed suit and assumed that they would
never be compelled to make good on their promise. Now
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- Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:30 PM
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True, they are too separate points but are related in that it will
take both commodity status and total necessity before it can be
treated as such.
On 11/9/05, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, RickG wrote:
I agree with George. Internet access is practically a necessity
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, George wrote:
Ok Butch. Lets take a test. Go to your office and your home and
unplug all your landlines and turn off all the cell phones for 1
week and lets see what happens.
OUCH! I am cold and hungry. Turning pale. My hair is falling out
(prolly not related. :-) ).
Any
10, 2005 10:56 AM
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, George wrote:
Ok Butch. Lets take a test. Go to your office and your home and unplug
all your landlines and turn off all the cell phones for 1 week and lets
see
.. without too much Hassel..
My 2cents worth!
Jean
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, George
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Ray Jean wrote:
electricity.. So a candle, shooting a rabbit, ugh!.. but they are 2
deer about 25 feet from my kitchen window. Guess I could shoot one
of them.
:-)
I maybe missing everyone's point.. but people will pay for what
they get.. As long as you give them what
, 2005 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Charles Wu wrote:
Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis
Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any
different?
Charles,
I don't often find myself
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Tom DeReggi wrote:
TV, Phone, Internet
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Charles Wu wrote:
Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis
Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any
different?
Charles,
I don't often find myself in total disagreement with your
statements. I am on this point, however. Well, maybe not
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For example, electricity, gas and water are items that are needed for basic
survival in the city. Granted, these services have not always been
available, but it is expected by all Americans that if they move somewhere,
they can get those services. Most people would not survive without these
I agree with George. Internet access is practically a necessity now,
especially for businesses. It wont be much longer and broadband will
be expected in order to do any kind of business. It may not be for
survival of your life, but certainly it will hurt you financially.
On 11/9/05, Charles Wu
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For example, electricity
: RE: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
snip
For example, electricity, gas and water are items that are needed for
basic
survival in the city. Granted, these services have not always been
available, but it is expected by all Americans that if they move
somewhere
Tom DeReggi wrote:
TV, Phone, Internet on the other hand are luxeries, things that people
rely on, but would survive if they did without. I've never seen someone
die from TV/Phone/Internet with drawal, although you never know it could
happen.
Tom. You should rethink what you just said
Actually the internet is likes roads and education.
Without it, you are at a definite economic disadvantage.
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, RickG wrote:
I agree with George. Internet access is practically a necessity
now, especially for businesses. It wont be much longer and
broadband will be expected in order to do any kind of business. It
may not be for survival of your life, but certainly it will hurt
you
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005, Tom DeReggi wrote:
MAN...where do you find the time to write so much. :-)
TV, Phone, Internet on the other hand are luxeries, things that
people rely on, but would survive if they did without. I've never
You stated very eloquently what I was trying to say. Thanks.
seen
Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone.
Entitlement vs. laws, and a company's TOS/AUP I'm sure are all involved in
one form or another, as with anything else concerning the use of a network
to access the Internet or other service.
As far as I am concerned, this whole
Couple of thoughts on this.
Seeing they are moving to fee based non profit rather than a community
group that is being financed by themselves and their node hosts,
Fine, let the them go to the school of hard nocks and figure out why our
subs are not allowed to run servers on the network
I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and
origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long distance phone
calls used to be. Yaykill me now.
Scriv
Frank Muto wrote:
Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone.
Entitlement vs. laws, and a
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I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and
origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long
LOL Frank! Give'em their eggs over hard cause they'll never take it
the easy way!
I agree with your sediments!
On 11/7/05, Frank Muto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just passing on some information that may be of interest to anyone.
Entitlement vs. laws, and a company's TOS/AUP I'm sure are all
John Scrivner wrote:
I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and
origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long distance phone
calls used to be. Yaykill me now.
Scriv
That's the model the RBOCs are comfortable with - since it makes them
billions.
REgards,
A modern marketing mistake created this mess. A company started to
sell a product that it was incapable of delivering: unlimited network
access. Other companies followed suit and assumed that they would
never be compelled to make good on their promise. Now, instead of
admitting that they were
Of John Scrivner
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge
I can see it now. We will soon be charging for termination and
origination of IP traffic on networks. Just like long distance phone
calls used
The worst thing that an ISP or WISP can do is to support these things. The
reason, is that if providers create the perception that this can happen and
can be controlled, (networks to be open for what ever legal purpose), than
there is absolutely no reason that the government should not keep
The elecric company doesn't care what you do with their electricity... The
gas company doesn't care what you do with their gas... The water company
doesn't care what you do with your water...
Why should the ISP care what you do with your connection, as long as it
doesn't affect their network?
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Scriv
Charles Wu wrote:
Electricity, Gas and Water are billed on a usage basis
Competitive market pressures aside, why should Internet be any
different?
-Charles
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Scriv
Charles Wu wrote:
Electricity, Gas
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