RE: Apple Petition- Continued

2012-08-01 Thread Lee H Badman
Sure. Will raise it thusly. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:13 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Continu

RE: Apple Petition- Continued

2012-08-01 Thread Osborne, Bruce W
Lee, I see the petition has a goal of 350 and we are now over 300. Perhaps we should raise the goal to 500 or 1000. I have just alerted a network vendor that has primarily Higher Ed customers. They are very interested. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY

RE: Apple Petition- Continued

2012-07-31 Thread Lee H Badman
Sigh... the cost of "free" From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Osborne, Bruce W [bosbo...@liberty.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:15 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject

RE: Apple Petition- Continued

2012-07-31 Thread Osborne, Bruce W
CAUTON: When you sign this petition, you get subscribed to change.org's email list. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Lee H Badman [mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:51 AM Sub

RE: Apple Petition- Some Starting Media Coverage

2012-07-13 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Thanks Lee From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 9:35 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Apple Petition- Some Starting Media Coverage http://www.networkcomput

RE: Apple Petition- Some Starting Media Coverage

2012-07-13 Thread Danner, Mearl
Well said Lee. From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:35 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Some Starting Media Coverage http:

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-12 Thread Danner, Mearl
oup Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Garry Peirce Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:26 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check Hearing that some do not us

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-12 Thread Peter P Morrissey
ehalf Of Garry Peirce Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:26 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check Hearing that some do not use FB that wish to sign, perhaps moving it to a site like http://www

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-12 Thread Cappalli, Tim G @ LSC-OIT
ISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]> On Behalf Of Garry Peirce Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:26 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check Hearing that some do not use FB that wish to sign, perhaps moving

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-12 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
ssues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Garry Peirce Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:26 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check Hearing that some do not use FB that wish to sign, perhaps moving it

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check It's just my opinion, but while asking Apple to implement OKC sounds like worthwhile idea, I'd like to keep the focus on Bonjour and Airplay for this petition. -Neil -- Neil Johnson Network Engineer The University of Iowa

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Yep -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Murphy Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 9:48 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition Honestly, if I could just

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition But it's still link-local and requires management of an enterprise-wide flat VLAN architecture. No IP addresses I can see. Just the hardware address. Don't we want something IP based similar to dynamic DNS? Microsoft provided WINS and then Act

RE: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

2012-07-11 Thread Curtis K. Larsen (UIT-Network)
What is the scope of the petition? What is the goal? Is it only to improve the Airplay feature in the enterprise? If so, the petition looks fine to me. If the goal is to encourage Apple to incorporate enterprise support in *all* of their products, then we should include more lacking enterpri

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-11 Thread Danner, Mearl
ecords. -Brian From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Johnson, Neil M [neil-john...@uiowa.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:41 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition My

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Johnson, Neil M [neil-john...@uiowa.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:41 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition My concern is that certain fields appear to contain dynamic information like the software version (see "srcvers=120.2) and other information (what

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Peter P Morrissey
1971 From: Andy Voelker [mailto:avoel...@email.wcu.edu] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Apple Petition That confuses me as well. It is obviously built in to many other iOS devices (iPod Touch, iPad) and has been for some time. Why the change? I suspect it just due

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-10 Thread Osborne, Bruce W
case, the petition may not have much effect. Bruce Osborne Network Engineer IT Network Services (434) 592-4229 LIBERTY UNIVERSITY Training Champions for Christ since 1971 From: Andy Voelker [mailto:avoel...@email.wcu.edu] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Apple Petition That conf

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-09 Thread Lee H Badman
Please consider this- as we get to the point where we have an agreed on document, say by this Friday, and we find an online petition site to use where individuals can "sign" on in whatever form that takes before we close the signing window and present it to Apple- are each one of us able to do s

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-09 Thread Andy Voelker
That confuses me as well. It is obviously built in to many other iOS devices (iPod Touch, iPad) and has been for some time. Why the change? I suspect it just due to the GUI difference. If so, that’s easily fixable. -- Andy Voelker Manager of Student Computing in the Technology Commons WCU St

RE: Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-09 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
DUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of John Kaftan Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:43 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) I know we have moved on to just talking about the petition but here

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-09 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Nice and thank you From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:31 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition Looking better. If we can get this to

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-09 Thread Lee H Badman
I would also offer that the beginning narrative includes something to the effect of “with Apple client device penetration of 50% or more on the typical campus environment, amounting to thousands of Apple client devices per campus with the desire to use their AppleTV and other Bonjour/Airplay bas

RE: Apple Petition

2012-07-06 Thread Voll, Toivo
Also, for me, the lack of support for WPA2-Enterprise is a head-scratcher. If they go through the trouble of supporting the rest of the encryption schemes, and obviously support it on a bunch of their other products, why randomly leave it out of some products? I’d prioritize that a bit more, per

Re: Apple Petition

2012-07-06 Thread Green, William C
Today it is AppleTV, tomorrow it will be a different device/use/software. The underlying issue, as others have noted, is the Bonjour resource discovery mechanism, what Apple likely needs is a directory service. Once that is solved, the problem will then shift to authentication/authorization/ac

RE: Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.)

2012-07-06 Thread Kellogg, Brian D.
Behalf Of Bruce Boardman Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 9:25 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: Apple Petition (Was Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] You knew it was coming...Airplay/Apple TV support for instructors.) I think it's a good idea to reach out to Apple, even if ignored, for two re