Hi
Don't be put off by the 3% figure --
It would be interesting to see the results of a moving to standards
based poll. This would be more reflective of the current status of web
standards around the globe, I feel - it's what a lot of us are trying to
do at the moment.
Remember that the
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Chris Stratford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. März 2004 11:21
An: Web Standards Group
Betreff: [WSG] Only IE or Actual CSS Rule
Hey People,
I dont know where to begin looking, but is this a rule, or has IE just invented
this...
How do I provide a message to users of selected browsers which I hid my
stylesheets from like for e.g. http://www.rad-e8.com/ does it?
With Regards
Jaime Wong
~~
SODesires Design Team
http://www.sodesires.com
~~
If I could just cover my butt here... Patrick is correct!
The info I posted below is the RECOMMENDATION from W3C, but as we all know,
browsers interpret this stuff in their own way. So, it's always best to
assume the worst and take off margins if that is what you require - this
will fix the issue
These guys use the following CSS rule:
.hide {
height: 0;
width: 0;
overflow: hidden;
position: absolute;
}
HTML:
div class=hide
p
If you are reading this on a mobile device browser or a text browser, you
can safely
a href=#maincontent
skip to the content/a.
...
Russ
Marco
Setting a form to display inline will negate the use of blocks inside it
(i,e fieldset, p, div, label). It would be more feasible to allow the
form element to be displayed as default and be explicit about the margin.
References:
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/forms/form.html
From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
Did I cover myself :)
Yup, your behind is safe for now ;)
P
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The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/
See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
for some hints on
Hugh Todd wrote:
I'm not sure why this should be so, because I have an idea the
rendering engine is now Opera.
Just for the record Hugh, Dreamweaver uses it's own custom rendering
engine. Macromedia Contribute uses Opera's rendering engine on the
Macintosh, which is where you might be getting
you can also use
.hide {
display: none
}
div class=hideMessage to non-stylesheet browsers/div
russ weakley wrote:
These guys use the following CSS rule:
.hide {
height: 0;
width: 0;
overflow: hidden;
position: absolute;
}
HTML:
div class=hide
p
If you are reading this on a
Hi list!
Jaime:
How do I provide a message to users of selected browsers which I hid my
stylesheets from like for e.g. http://www.rad-e8.com/ does it?
Well, It's not just the hide-style... Opera7.23/Win2000 gets no design as well. After a quick view-scource I found that he doesn't link the
There's actually a good reason for this difference. (I can't find the
reference right now, but I think it's in Zeldman's Designing With Web
Standards.) Some screenreaders (Jaws?) observe the display:none CSS
rule, even though it's a visual thing -- therefore, the rule Jeremy
cited won't be
Susan
Usability and accessibility are integral parts of many reputable upper
level media programs, not just per se human factors. Dedicated human
factors programs branch from psychology as ergonomics or computer
science as interface building. Here at the University at Buffalo most
dedicated
Nate,
First of all, that wasn¹t my technique, just the one used by the site
mentioned by Jaime.
A good articles on hiding content is Joe Clark's:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/
This article details the difference between display: none and display:
hidden.
It seems clear that any
I've been thinking about a post from a few days ago that has been bothering
me. The comments in this post highlight the difference between valid
markup and structurally-sound markup:
Question:
...you have the headings of these as h1s I'm not sure if you should have
more than one h1 a page? is
would it also depend on the method used to include the stylesheet:
@import vs. link?
russ weakley wrote:
Nate,
First of all, that wasn¹t my technique, just the one used by the site
mentioned by Jaime.
A good articles on hiding content is Joe Clark's:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/
On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 03:35 PM, russ weakley wrote:
While using multiple h1's are valid, you
should also think about the underlying page structure - and think
about how
other devices will interpret this structure.
Russ
Your point is well taken and needs to be implemented more.
Hi
Is that visibility : hidden; ? - display : none will cause a box to not
be rendered, visiblity : hidden (CSS2 11.2) will just make it invisible,
like Kevin Bacon in that really bad movie.
Another point to pick up on this discussion was seen with Peter's cinema
site - doing something like
I assume that everyone mentioning how great DW is for them is using it
mainly in the coder (homesite) version.
how many are successfully using the WYSIWYG on a consistent basis and
doing standards compliant work?
Sooner or later, you have to get into the code.
Jeremy Flint
www.jeremyflint.com
Correct! My mistake.
Change my original sentence to:
This article details the difference between display: none and visibility:
hidden.
:)
Russ
Hi
Is that visibility : hidden; ? - display : none will cause a box to not
be rendered, visiblity : hidden (CSS2 11.2) will just make it
At 07:35 18/03/2004 +1100, you wrote:
I've been thinking about a post from a few days ago that has been bothering
me. The comments in this post highlight the difference between valid
markup and structurally-sound markup:
Question:
...you have the headings of these as h1s I'm not sure if you should
as well as the media setting for the stylesheet screen, print, etc
-
Jeremy Flint
www.jeremyflint.com
Jeremy Flint wrote:
would it also depend on the method used to include the stylesheet:
@import vs. link?
russ weakley wrote:
Nate,
First of all, that wasn¹t my technique, just the one
At 07:35 18/03/2004 +1100, you wrote:
I've been thinking about a post from a few days ago that has been bothering
me. The comments in this post highlight the difference between valid
markup and structurally-sound markup:
Some more thoughts after a chat with a friend here:
- Web pages can
Kay,
Your reply sent me off to the web for a search. Couldn't find much, but
this is what Creativepro.com's review says:
Macromedia decided to license the Opera HTML-rendering engine just as
they did with Contribute 2 to provide more faithful layout rendering
than before, although this does
In my opinion in order to do css and html professionally you have to
get into the code
But many people use DW (or contribute) who do not code html etc
professionally (eg. content managers, IAs, GDs, java developers), and
this is where the design view comes in very handy.
Luckily if you get
Is this OT? if it is sorry but
I sat here last night reading up on accessibility
after reading the article at http://www.ergoboy.com/news/uk_user_friendly_website_disabled.phpabout new legislation in the UK.
I frankly don't know if I can cope with all this!
After the trauma of trying to
Sorry OT, but Jeremy is there anywhere I can find the keynotes to this
statement. This is pretty big news, we all knew about the problems
[http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/]but to officially deprecate!
So which one
[http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2003/12/12/accessible_i/index.php]
do
Thanks to Manuel and Mike... that gives me loads to get started with.
Jackie Reid
Mock Orange Web Site Development
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MACKAY Q 4740
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- Original Message -
From: Manuel González Noriega [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AFAIK the most common method is to use percentage values for font sizes
as this method is most compatible
--
Neerav Bhatt
http://www.bhatt.id.au
James Silva wrote:
Hi guys,
Can anyone point me to a good article regarding relative font sizes and IE?
I'm trying to avoid large font size point
There are heaps of images-for-heading options described at this page that
get around the problems associated with FIR:
http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/
The FIR has been on the way out since Joe Clark wrote this:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/
The big issue is
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:43:08 -0500, Kim Buttery wrote:
Please explain your acronym AFAIK. Thanks.
As Far As I Know
http://www.geek2geek.org/ is one place to look up unknown acronyms.
There are plenty of others.
warmly,
Lea
--
Lea de Groot
Elysian Systems
Brisbane Australia
Hello Kim
To decrease email traffic this kind of request should be directed to Google.
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http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dictString=exactAcronym=afaik
Best regards
James
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Kim Buttery wrote:
Please explain your acronym AFAIK. Thanks.
Jeremy
how many are successfully using the WYSIWYG on a consistent basis and doing standards compliant work?
I've used DW for 5+ years and always used the design view first and then I'd have to clean up DW's verbose code by hand, but back then it was as standard as standards were.
i would say
The following links should help.
http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/
incremental_differences.html
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sizematters/
http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/font/index.html
Cheers Leo, very thorough.
hello everyone, im just wondering if there is a way to change
scroll bars with CSS that will that will work cross browser and still be
valid?
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