ch complaining about the fact that people came back to 800px
wide design as that I find it curious that they all look a bit the same.
>
> On 02/05/2005, at 6:56 PM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
> > Something I find really strange is that a lot of people who put
> &g
Something I find really strange is that a lot of people who put emphasis on
Web Standards suddenly found their way back to non-liquid, 800px, centered
design. I am wondering why that is?
The majority of pages that show up in this group for review display some
kind of centered design with 800px (o
Gee, that's a new one to me! Is a HTML 4 tag? I've never come across
it. Then again: haven't worked with tables in a while.
Thanks, I'll give it a try!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Peter Ottery
Sent: Monday, 2 May
I am having difficulties getting IE to give a table a padding-left. I can't
figure out why this doesn't work, but perhaps somebody else can see my
mistake:
http://www.adictivemedia.com.au/clients/gta/home2.html
You can see on the "Drafts Table" that the text overlaps the left side of
the backgrou
> -Original Message-
> From: Kvnmcwebn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 29 April 2005 7:50 PM
> To: wsg
> Subject: [WSG] what ie bug is this?
>
> hello,
>
> What ie windows 6 bug creates relics like the ones at the
> bottom of the
> boxes in the central column of this page?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 25 April 2005 9:47 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling of in Firefox
>
> Hi
>
> Then what about using some relative positioning to offset the legend?
>
> position : relative;
You have got what I want, but as far as I can see you didn't use
for it, but used a for the titles of your fieldsets. I want to do the
same, but using legends if possible.
From: Genau L. Júnior [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 25 April 2005 8:44 PM
To: w
> -Original Message-
> From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 25 April 2005 9:01 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling of in Firefox
>
> To get around the issue, I style the form not the fieldset tag so that
> the legend appears fully enclos
> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 25 April 2005 8:51 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: RE: [WSG] Styling of in Firefox
> If you can live with the weird margin at the top (which
> shouldn't affect
> the form, but it does ?!),
> -Original Message-
> From: Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 25 April 2005 7:51 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Styling of in Firefox
>
> I am having some difficulties to position the conte
> -Original Message-
> From: Rachel Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 25 April 2005 7:50 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] help, please!!
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've been developing a site based on the Ruthsarian layouts and it's
> working ok except in IE
I am having some difficulties to position the content of using CSS
in Firefox. Firefox (and IE) default positions the legend so that it
overlaps with the border of the fieldset. Which in general is quite nice,
but in my particular case I want the content of the legend to be inside the
fieldset's b
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2005 1:44 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] IE three pixel bug has beaten me
>
> Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
> > This is the second
This is the second time I am coming across the IE three pixel bug, but this
time it really got me:
http://www.addictivemedia.com.au/clients/gta/home.html
Please ignore the green line that shows up in IE (didn't get around to
dealing with that one yet). The three pixel bug shows itself in IE on th
What I normally do when I want to use min-height is use a css hack to set a
height for IE only. IE will treat the height property in the same way as
min-height was meant to work. But you have to hide the set height from the
other browsers that support min-height.
HTH
> -Original Message-
> -Original Message-
> From: designer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2005 8:47 PM
> To: webstandards group
> Subject: [WSG] linked image problem in IE
>
> Dear experts,
>
> I have just upgraded a site to xhtml/css, no tables etc. It
> all seems to
> work fine in F
> -Original Message-
> From: M M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2005 2:54 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Css Floating Image
>
> Right now the problem is a gap under the image.
>
Ooops, didn't read your mail carefully enough. It's the little sp
> -Original Message-
> From: M M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2005 2:54 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Css Floating Image
>
> I am having problems floating an image in a div cell using css.
> I want to have the whole page centered and static w
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Menzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 3:55 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] GMail... Terrible!
>
> I'll repeat myself - just so that people know I am serious
> about this..
>
> There are plenty of
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Menzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 3:28 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] GMail... Terrible!
>
> My opinion.
>
> Dont use it if it doesnt work for you.
>
> While I am all for webstandards, there
> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Lake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 13 February 2005 9:35 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] UL menu - gap and firstlink
> it works fine in
> Opera, Firefox
> and IE6, apart from a slight gap between the hovered link and
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mani Sheriar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 11 February 2005 3:32 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] ie INSANITY ... please help me
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am having SUCH a bizarre experience with IE. I thought I'd seen it
> all with th
Looks very nice.
There are two things that sort of bothered me:
My first instinct was to click on the icons at the top. I was expecting them
to be your primary navigation, but they weren't. I was kind of disappointed
to find out that my expectation wasn't met.
The second thing are the hover ef
I was just looking for something similar the other day. I am not quite sure
about it yet, but have a look at Mambo (http://www.mamboserver.com/) - it is
open source PHP, but I am not quite sure yet in how far it is standards
compliant.
HTH.
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Kennon [ma
> -Original Message-
> From: john [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 23 January 2005 9:31 PM
> To: web standards group
> Subject: [WSG] double space after period
>
> Forgive me if this doesn't specifically relate to standards,
> but perhaps
> it does.
>
> I'm simply wondering ab
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Pepper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 23 January 2005 4:37 AM
> To: WSG
> Subject: [WSG] Table v Container Development
>
> Last night I redeveloped the index page for a commercial site in as an
> exercise to illustrate the benefits of standards
> -Original Message-
> From: The Bo$$ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 22 January 2005 2:59 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] newbie with popup menus question
>
> Well, as they say, "if you have to use dropdowns you should probably
> rethink your site stru
Welcome to the group and the world of web standards. Hope you will enjoy.
I guess the best place to first direct you to in regards to popup menus
would be this page: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dropdowns/
Here we are dealing with a dropdown menu that is build in web standards, and
theref
Danke, Ingo! Thanks.
> -Original Message-
> From: IChao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 20 January 2005 8:46 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] mysterious little movement
>
> Looks like you've fixed it. Forcing buggy IE to show at least
> 250px of
> ca
Aha! I will give it a try. I just couldn't find a solution for it. Thanks,
man.
The design of this page was so full of little details that it ended up being
quite a mix of css and DIVs. I'll follow your recommendation on the
float:right as well.
Cheers.
> -Original Message-
> From: IChao
I am fairly sure that there were some exceptions set in the W3C guidelines.
Can't remember the exact wording, but hidden type=hidden, type=button, etc
don't need labels.
> -Original Message-
> From: Wong Chin Shin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2005 10:24 AM
> To: [
> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 14 January 2005 9:15 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Two CSS Question
>
> Salman,
>
> I'm glad you asked about including, I have wondered that
> myself. I would
> like to add an
> -Original Message-
> From: Salman, Khwaja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 14 January 2005 7:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [WSG] Two CSS Question
> 1)
>
> I would like ask what is the difference between using and
> @import statement in linking style sheets.
>
> Bo
> -Original Message-
> From: Rimantas Liubertas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 10:44 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] G* addressing standards
>
> So what exactly makes you think those users will:
>
> a) know hot to change font size
We have
> -Original Message-
> From: Gunlaug Sørtun [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 10:30 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] G* addressing standards
>
> Two factors creates this accessibility-problem with pixel-defined text:
> - Web designers in gener
> -Original Message-
> From: Rimantas Liubertas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 8 January 2005 6:49 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] G* addressing standards
>
> To be more precise: what percentage of unfortunate web surfers knows
> that it is possible to c
> -Original Message-
> From: Erwin Heiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 7 January 2005 12:07 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Redesigning an eyesore
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I just finished my redesign of the website of a local dance school.
>
> The URL:
> http://
> -Original Message-
> From: David R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 1 January 2005 6:09 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] or
>
>
> Whats more appropriate for form submission?
>
> Quite frankly, I can't see any advantage of
> over , for one... its more s
> -Original Message-
> From: Anthony Zeoli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 December 2004 7:13 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Web Design Theory Question: CSS only or
> Illustrator/Photoshop to CSS?
>
>
> Should I design my layout in Illustrator as we've all
Thanks. I will give it a go. Any idea why the other break stuffed up in IE
5.01?
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 20 December 2004 5:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] IE Hack wrecks IE 5.01 design
>
>
> An easier hack for
Hi Will,
thanks for that. It is actually a different problem you are pointing out,
but nonetheless also important. I will try to set the min-width as
suggested.
Cheers.
-Original Message-
From: Will Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 20 December 2004 5:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTEC
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Cruickshank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 19 December 2004 2:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons
> I haven't ever found any accessibility expert saying images of text are
> inaccessible when the
> image i
> -Original Message-
> From: Philippe Wittenbergh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 18 December 2004 3:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] accessible image form buttons
>
> What is wrong with solution 3:
> />
> adding a title attribute for good measure and increas
> -Original Message-
> From: Website Direction Ltd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2004 10:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?
>
>
> John said:
> "What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the
> c
> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick H. Lauke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 9 December 2004 7:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] alt or title...
>
>
> Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
> > It's good practise to have
> -Original Message-
> From: Lea de Groot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2004 11:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] alt or title...
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 23:06:52 +1100, Brett Walsh wrote:
> > I am using the strict dtd so as far as I understand
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Futter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 6 December 2004 3:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs
> And therein
> lies the rub: lists are one-dimensional, as you yourself point out
> elsewhere; breadcrumbs attempt t
> -Original Message-
> From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 6 December 2004 11:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs
>
> A sentence isn't a collection of related item because each word is
> dependent on the rest of the sentence
I guess it gives us a good starting point for measuring accessibility: if
NN4 people can still access it and navigate it, you have done something
right. It doesn't mean your website has to look fantastic in NN4, but you
should always keep in mind that there are people who use old browsers that
migh
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Curtis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, 5 December 2004 5:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [WSG] No skipping to content needed?
> A lot of people put an in-page anchor at the top to "skip navigation"
> or "skip to main content." Are there
> -Original Message-
> From: Lothar B. Baier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 7:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Font size and arrogance
> I design all my websites on a
> computer with the screenresolution set appropriate to the size of the
> sc
Personally I set a 100% font-size for the body to start off with and then
set individual % for the different tags and classes.
The problem you describe sounds like something I struggled with at the
beginning as well: I presume what is happening is that you are inheriting
sizes between nested tags,
In regards to one of the news items you have:
"One of the WSG members posted a link to a very interesting PDF about
creating Accessible and Usable Websites [904kb]. If you are someone who is
building web sites for visually impaired viewers, or are visually impaired
and using a screen reader, this
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Edwart Visser
> Sent: Thursday, 4 November 2004 7:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [WSG] links with same names
>
>
> Ok, but then there is the answer, isnt it?
>
> Take a look at this exampl
I have been searching for an article I read a while ago on the Dublin Core,
but cannot find it anymore. If I remember correctly it was published by an
SEO group and mentioned that it was very doubtful the Dublin Core would be
accepted as standard, as it has been around for many years and so far
rep
Hi Casey, welcome to the group.
I never tried the Digest Mode, but it sounds to me as if that might be doing
what you want. The way I personally set up my email account is to
automatically move all emails from this group into a dedicated folder, so
that they are seperate from all my other email. I
I think it is a very dangerous decision to make! IE is still by far the most
common browser and you might be right that clients could get a bit nervous
when they see you are anti-IE. It took me such a long time to ditch NN 4,
but now that I have done it it just feels great! Dropping IE will take a
If I remember correctly, you have to use a combination of javascript and css
to do the trick. So in addition to your li:hover, try implementing this
javascript:
http://www.addictivemedia.com.au/clients/navigation.js
I tried to put as many comments in as possible. If you have got any
questions abo
Sorry,
didn't have much time to look at the css, but I think your problem with the
image in IE should be solved if you give your header a fixed
height.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Lyn
PattersonSent: Tuesday, 12 October 2
Negative values always give pretty bad results. Instead of moving it up, why
don't you float the heading to the right of your logo and then just movie it
a bit down and a bit left (by giving margin-top and margin-right)? That
should give you the result you want, without using negative numbers.
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