Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > For Safari (using 1.3), with images disabled, I get a grey outline > where the image should be, and **sometimes** the alt text displayed. > Like: if it fixes inside the bounding box for the image. If the text > is too long, (ie a long long alt text) on a 20px by 20px i

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

On 1 Jun 2005, at 12:32 am, Thierry Koblentz wrote: If I disable images in FF and Safari I do not get anything. Do you? The answer for Firefox was already given. For Safari (using 1.3), with images disabled, I get a grey outline where the image should be, and **sometimes** the alt text displ

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > Ok, the IR technique I was referring to (now that I've checked) was > the Gilder/Levin method > http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/#gilderlevin Believe it or not, but I didn't know about that one ;-) Identical approach in term of CSS, but - as you kn

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

Thierry Koblentz wrote: Patrick Lauke wrote: and use CSS background image for the "real" image, but then you may as well use any other element (such as a SPAN in...whatever IR technique I'm thinking of). BTW, what would be the advantage of using a span rather than an img element? And then

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

pixeldiva wrote: > Yes. I do. I get the alt text where it's been applied. As Patrick pointed out, you must be using the built-in function of FF, but it does not work that way in Safari (atleast in v.1.2.4). >> Regarding MSIE, what I meant is that the alt attribute value does >> not match the text

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

Patrick Lauke wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken, the WebDev extension does a fairly brutal > "remove images > from the DOM". A far more accurate test (if you don't want to change > your > global options) is to choose WebDev's Images > "Replace Images with > Alt Attributes" > option. > Can't vouch for Sa

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

On 5/31/05, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who's talking about tooltip? :-) > If I disable images in FF and Safari I do not get anything. Do you? Yes. I do. I get the alt text where it's been applied. > Regarding MSIE, what I meant is that the alt attribute value does not match > t

RE: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

> Thierry Koblentz > If I disable images in FF and Safari I do not get anything. Do you? If you disable images in FF through something like the WebDev extension, no. However, if you disable them the normal way (the way a user who doesn't want/need images would) via Tools > Options > Web Features

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

pixeldiva wrote: >> You mean even if images are disabled? >> That's true with some browsers, but not all. I believe FF and Safari >> do not show the alt attribute value at all when images are disabled. >> And in MSIE, this value is not displayed in relation to the user's >> settings regarding text-

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

On 5/31/05, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You mean even if images are disabled? > That's true with some browsers, but not all. I believe FF and Safari do not > show the alt attribute value at all when images are disabled. And in MSIE, > this value is not displayed in relation to the

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

Patrick Lauke wrote: > Maybe I'm missing the point here, but...have we just come full circle? > If you're already adding IMG to the markup, what's the point of doing > Hello World > and applying lots of CSS to hide the text, if a simple > > will do? You mean even if images are disabled? That's tr

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

Jan Brasna wrote: > Well, I don't fancy it much, I don't like the idea of presentational > image in HTML... I personally use own solution[1], based partly on > Dynatext[2]. Now I'm playing with Anatoly's DIR[3] > If the user

Re: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

Well, I don't fancy it much, I don't like the idea of presentational image in HTML... I personally use own solution[1], based partly on Dynatext[2]. Now I'm playing with Anatoly's DIR[3] [1] Can be seen on or [2]

RE: [WSG] An alternative to FIR (Fahrner Image replacement)?

> Thierry Koblentz > I think I may have found a new way to enhance the original idea: > The demo (scalable image): > http://www.TJKDesign.com/articles/tip_5.asp > The article: > http://www.TJKDesign.com/articles/tip.asp Maybe I'm missing the point here, but...have we just come full circle? If you