Why, if there are level settings for both graphical displays on the graphical
display dialog would a level setting on the main WSJT-X dialog be necessary? It
would be more convienent if that slider actually did adjust the audio level.
73 DE VK2RT Bruce
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> On Jul 19, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel
> wrote:
>
> Hmmm...some feedback from those that still want it on the main screen would
> be nice.
On the menu for me, Mike.
Gary - AG0N
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Enough, already, about the audio level slider!!
Those who read the manual knew what it was for.
It confused many others, and it was responsible for a large number of
emails to two reflectors and direct to me.
Its function was mildly useful, but redundant.
It will soon be history.
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There is no free space created by removing the slider. The CAT widget is still
there. Though maybe we could do a color code on the freq display to show if
it's working (e.g. red text if it's not since red background means OOB right
now).
Seems like a lot of angst for a control that doesn't do
Michael,
It doesn't have to remain a gigantic slider - it could be a simple dB spinbox
like the other controls on the graph window. That would actually free up space
on the main window where all the real fun happens.
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On 20/07/2017 6:30 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
I agree the placement is misleading...but there really isn't a better
place to put it without some judicious rearranging.
Would need to figure out what to do with the CAT indicator for example.
Or maybe sticking it under the Date/Time
Hmmm...some feedback from those that still want it on the main screen would be
nice.
de Mike W9MDB
From: David Tiller
To: Black Michael ; WSJT software development
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] A non-technical reason to remove/relocate the audio
sl
I agree the placement is misleading...but there really isn't a better place to
put it without some judicious rearranging.Would need to figure out what to do
with the CAT indicator for example.Or maybe sticking it under the Date/Time
might work.Just not a lot of room to work with.
de Mike W9MDB
Having the slider immediately adjacent to the level indicator,
regardless of its true function, implies to an uneducated user (hasn't
read the manual or understood group postings) that the two are
associated. It is how most GUIs are presented.
A problem I see all too often, is some users exper
Please add my vote in favor of removing the slider.
I think the screen presentation should be as simple, "clean", and
intuitive as possible. The slider has been none of that. More
confusing and counterintuitive than anything. If there were no slider
before now, no one would be wanting a con
In the recent CQ VHF contest I used both MSK144 and FT8 for making many (110)
digital contacts. The MSK144 mode already has a checkbox under
File/Settings/Advanced for "MSK144 Contest Mode" which allowed the transmission
of grid square reports. There presently is no such option for FT8.
I bel
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel
> wrote:
>
> The patch as-is makes it default to offthat vast majority of people will
> not need to enable it and if they do, it's clear as a bell in the checkbox to
> turn it on.
> We'll still get "what happened to the slider" q
That's a known weakness of the Flattenbut if you bump up the "Start" value
and make the graph window a bit narrower than your bandpass it works fine.
de Mike W9MDB
From: Gary McDuffie
To: Black Michael ; WSJT software development
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:43 PM
Subject: Re
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 9:20 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel
> wrote:
>
> Are you using the fast graph or is there some reason not to use Flatten for
> you?
With flatten turned on, there are extreme curves add at the edges of the
receiver bandpass if it is narrower than your display. Turning
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 9:10 AM, George J Molnar wrote:
>
> Vote for retention of the slider. Switching bands often calls for readjusting
> the waterfall, and the slider is a convenient, easy to understand tool.
>
> I wouldn't mind moving it away from the thermometer, to clarify the proper
> f
On 19/07/17 20:28, Richard Lamont wrote:
> I noticed that with the Pwr slider at maximum, the level of the tone on
> 'Tune' was exactly 0 dBFS, as expected. However, when turning the level
> down, the measured level went down 3 dB for every 1 dB indicated on the
> tooltip shown as I hovered the mo
v1.8.0-rc2-r7924
Ubuntu 16.04 amd64
I connected the Tx audio output from WSJT-X via Jack to a couple of
audio test utilities - the jaaa spectrum analyser and the jnoisemeter
RMS level meter.
I noticed that with the Pwr slider at maximum, the level of the tone on
'Tune' was exactly 0 dBFS, as expe
The patch as-is makes it default to offthat vast majority of people will
not need to enable it and if they do, it's clear as a bell in the checkbox to
turn it on.We'll still get "what happened to the slider" questions.Just trying
to avoid the complaints of fast graph operators who liked the
On 20/07/2017 4:45 AM, Joe Taylor wrote:
Mike --
Don't make the slider optional -- just remove it.
-- Joe
+1 from me.
While ever the slider is immediately adjacent to the level indicator,
regardless of how many times the true function of the slider has been
publicly explained, people
There were a few people who still wanted waterfall control from the main
window...mainly for fastgraph...to avoid having too much mouse movement when
switching bands.
Just trying to accommodate those operators. It's harmless to everybody else,
isn't it?
de Mike W9MDB
From: Joe Taylor
To
Mike --
Don't make the slider optional -- just remove it.
-- Joe
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de Mike W9MDB
From: dgb
To: Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem
Mike, how does one add those patches? 73 Dwight NS9I
Mike, how does one add those patches?
73 Dwight NS9I
On 7/19/2017 1:01 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
Make main window water fall slider optional in Settings/General. Add
in-your-face notice to audio settings. Improve Transceiver Setup in
manual. Improve tooltip on inGain slider.
I vote to get rid of the slider once and for all. I'm tired of reading
about it, as I'm sure people are tired of answering the same question
over and over again.
Rob AB1NJ
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Make main window water fall slider optional in Settings/General. Add
in-your-face notice to audio settings. Improve Transceiver Setup in manual.
Improve tooltip on inGain slider.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sl2hwlt2me63yfu/slider.patch?dl=1
Comments/tomatoes welcome on the transceiver setup doc
Hi David,
On 7/19/2017 11:42 AM, David Tiller wrote:
Using flatten for me results in a very angry red and yellow mess. I run
my input signal fairly hot, though. Around 60dB or so. It seems that
flatten can't handle high input levels.
Almost always, this behavior indicated that you have not fo
One thing I've seen many do is keep the Start frequency at 0 instead of 200 for
example where most rigs roll off.And then having the upper limit above their
bandpass. That's adjusted with Bins/pixel and the waterfall width.The Flatten
works best on an already flat bandpass in the waterfall view
Mike, you're right. Previous experiences with “Flatten” had led me to not use
it for a long time. Just tested using it, and it is much better than I recall,
and quite satisfactory!
I respectfully withdraw my support for slider retention.
PS - I do use the fast graph frequently, but can adjust
Using flatten for me results in a very angry red and yellow mess. I run my
input signal fairly hot, though. Around 60dB or so. It seems that flatten can't
handle high input levels.
David Tiller | Senior Manager
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On 18/07/17 23:52, Bill Somerville wrote:
> if you are going to do a patch then remove the slider altogether
+1 for removal from the main window. I'm not bothered whether something
gets added to the waterfall window, as long as it doesn't duplicate what
the existing four sliders do.
73,
Richard
The "Flatten" option on the waterfall solves that problem too.But not for the
fast graph.Are you using the fast graph or is there some reason not to use
Flatten for you?
de Mike W9MDB
From: George J Molnar
To: WSJT software development
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:15 AM
Subject:
Vote for retention of the slider. Switching bands often calls for readjusting
the waterfall, and the slider is a convenient, easy to understand tool.
I wouldn't mind moving it away from the thermometer, to clarify the proper
function. It isn't really difficult to grasp, though!
George J Molnar
Mike, Bill,
FWIW I’d like to keep the slider. I like the idea of encouraging users to read
the manual.
From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:37 PM
To: WSJT software development
Cc: Black Michael
Subject: Re: [wsjt-deve
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