On 25 Apr 2019 at 14:30, Bill Somerville wrote:
> Frank,
>
> WSJT-X tries to prevent *Fox* FT8 DXpedition mode stations from
> operating on the "usual" FT8 frequencies. Clearly we cannot stop use of
> Fox mode if the DX does not use CAT control. Other programs like MSHV
> allow a mode similar
Bravo!
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 18:02:35 -0400
James Shaver wrote:
> No CAT control with this old rig (picture attached) and it holds its own ;)
>
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> On Apr 25, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Jim Shorney wrote:
>
>
> The point was that CAT is not essential in any case. The notion that CAT is
> *required* to use FT/JT modes is a myth propagated by those who don't know
> any
The point was that CAT is not essential in any case. The notion that CAT is
*required* to use FT/JT modes is a myth propagated by those who don't know any
better. There are those of us who do not use CAT for whatever reason and we
appreciate the ability to operate this way. To successfully to
Bill,
Thanks for the info. I'm an old CW op at heart, and even with a PhD in EE,
I sometimes scratch my head trying to figure out why the software works the
way it does.
73,
Frank
KF6E
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 9:54 AM Bill Somerville
wrote:
> On 25/04/2019 14:15, Frank Kirschner wrote:
> > Some
On 25/04/2019 14:15, Frank Kirschner wrote:
Someone wrote that the software prevented using Hound mode in the
regular band segments. I was just demonstrating that this was not the
case. I didn't actually transmit, since I saw no stations in Fox mode.
Frank,
WSJT-X tries to prevent *Fox* FT8
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 10:49 PM Jim Shorney wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 14:11:19 +0100
> "Martin Davies G0HDB" wrote:
>
> > The use of Split is all-but essential for slick operation in Hound mode,
> which is presumably
> > why the software complained if you changed to a Hound configuration
> w
Martin,
Thanks for you complete reply. I appreciate your taking the time. My
comments are below.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 9:20 AM Martin Davies G0HDB
wrote:
>
> Frank:
>
> If the station you want to work is concurrently transmitting multiple
> (typically 3) signals 60Hz
> apart, and conducting m
On Tue, 23 Apr 2019 14:11:19 +0100
"Martin Davies G0HDB" wrote:
> The use of Split is all-but essential for slick operation in Hound mode,
> which is presumably
> why the software complained if you changed to a Hound configuration without
> one or other of
> the Split options being selected.
On 22 Apr 2019 at 17:22, Frank Kirschner wrote:
> OK. How do I tell whether it's a F/H mode station or a "derivative"
> program? Most of the time, when I switch to F/H mode to work DX, I am able
> to work them. Does that indicate the DX station is, indeed, running F/H?
Frank:
If the station you
If you're answering on the normal FT8 frequencies, its not the WSJT-X
DXPedition mode which specifically locks out the standard FT8 frequencies.
They are using a third-party software that I referred to previously.
Neil, KN3ILZ
On 4/22/2019 5:22 PM, Frank Kirschner wrote:
Grant,
On Sun, Apr 21
I don't know of many people who 'toggle' F/H mode. As has been pointed
out, if you're using F/H mode, you're chasing a DXPedition that has
normally announced what frequencies it will be using, and would not be
on the normal FT8 locations.
Whoever is using a F/H look-alike on the normal frequenc
Just found my reading glasses and noticed that it is 10.131, not 10.136, so
that's not an example.
But that has noting to do with the point of improving the user interface.
I created hundreds of databases for industry and government, and found that
they were best-received when the most used funct
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 5:51 PM Martin Davies G0HDB
wrote:
> On 21 Apr 2019 at 13:47, Frank Kirschner wrote:
>
> I use a specific, separate configuration for F/H mode and see no need to
> have a main-screen
> check-box to select the mode; as has already been pointed out selecting
> that, and any
way, click the waterfall to set the green marker, or right
>> click to set the red marker – simple, intuitive and easy.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 GL
>>
>> Gary ZL2iFB
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Frank Kirschner
>> *Sent:* 22 April 2019 05:38
&
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 7:08 PM Jim Shorney wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:06:26 +0930
> "Grant VK5GR" wrote:
>
> > Fox and Hound was never in the main FT8 channels – indeed I believe
> Bill, Frank Joe and the team coded the system to not let you run F/H mode
> on the main FT8 channels.
>
>
> .
Grant,
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:40 PM Grant VK5GR wrote:
> Frank,
>
>
>
> Fox and Hound was never in the main FT8 channels – indeed I believe Bill,
> Frank Joe and the team coded the system to not let you run F/H mode on the
> main FT8 channels.
>
Interesting. If that's the case, that function
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 5:51 PM Martin Davies G0HDB
wrote:
> On 21 Apr 2019 at 13:47, Frank Kirschner wrote:
>
>
> I've been a user of FT8 F/H mode since its inception and I can't recall
> any instances where
> *genuine* F/H signals have appeared in the standard FT8 band segments; can
> anyone
>
Also, by the way, click the waterfall to set the green marker, or right
> click to set the red marker – simple, intuitive and easy.
>
>
>
> 73 GL
>
> Gary ZL2iFB
>
>
>
> *From:* Frank Kirschner
> *Sent:* 22 April 2019 05:38
> *To:* WSJT software development
On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:06:26 +0930
"Grant VK5GR" wrote:
> Fox and Hound was never in the main FT8 channels – indeed I believe Bill,
> Frank Joe and the team coded the system to not let you run F/H mode on the
> main FT8 channels.
which can easily be subverted by not using CAT control of
of mixing F/H mode with standard FT8 traffic.
Regards,
Grant VK5GR
From: Frank Kirschner [mailto:frank.kirsch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 22 April 2019 3:18 AM
To: WSJT software development
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Suggestion for Additional Checkbox
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11
At one point the controls for F/H were on the main part of the GUI and the
group was flooded with questions asking why they were receiving and
transmitting “funny” because they were inadvertently checking the box when it
was on the main page. That went away when the box was moved into the settin
On 21 Apr 2019 at 13:47, Frank Kirschner wrote:
> That's not completely accurate. Initially, most F/H operation was in the
> regular band segment, but as those segments filled up, DX stations moved to
> the alternate frequencies. I have worked DX stations in F/H mode in the
> regular band segments
F2 is your friend. If 'Advanced" was the last active tab you you will be right
there. That's a single key stroke! What's so hard about that?
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Sun, 21 Apr 2019 13:38:24 -0400
Frank Kirschner wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 10:53 PM WB5JJJ wrote:
>
> > F/H is not something
!) he calls us.
Also, by the way, click the waterfall to set the green marker, or right click
to set the red marker – simple, intuitive and easy.
73 GL
Gary ZL2iFB
From: Frank Kirschner
Sent: 22 April 2019 05:38
To: WSJT software development
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Suggestion for
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11:19 PM Neil Zampella wrote:
> There is already a F/H mode, safely placed where it can't be
> accidentally checked as the old VHF contest box (at least I believe it
> was the VHF contest) was at one point.
>
> The suggestion has been to clone your current FT8 configuratio
On 21/04/2019 18:38, Frank Kirschner wrote:
As I pointed out, it wouldn't clutter the screen. There is ample room
for several more checkboxes.
Frank,
that is not correct, there are other controls that are not always
visible. Here is a view of the UI design file that shows what is really
the
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 10:53 PM WB5JJJ wrote:
> F/H is not something you would normally select on a frequent basis,
>
Yes it is. I mostly do DX hunting, and around 10 to 15% of my QSOs have
been in F/H mode. Normally, I never respond to CQs from band-entities that
I already have confirmed on Lo
> On Apr 20, 2019, at 15:46, Frank Kirschner wrote:
>
> Between the Hold Tx Freq checkbox and the Call 1st checkbox, there is room
> for several more checkboxes. One I would suggest is Fox/Hound mode. I would
> also suggest this automatically set Split to either Rig or Fake It, which
> coul
Or just hit F2 and you are one or two mouse clicks away...
73
-Jim
NU0C
On Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:48:03 -0500
WB5JJJ wrote:
> F/H is not something you would normally select on a frequent basis, so a
> check box cluttering the main screen is not necessary.
>
> As previously suggested setting a
There is already a F/H mode, safely placed where it can't be
accidentally checked as the old VHF contest box (at least I believe it
was the VHF contest) was at one point.
The suggestion has been to clone your current FT8 configuration, and set
up the frequencies in that clone to the DXPedition fr
F/H is not something you would normally select on a frequent basis, so a
check box cluttering the main screen is not necessary.
As previously suggested setting a Configuration for that mode (and others)
are just 2 clicks away and totally customizable. This procedure is
outlined in the User Manual
Good idea. I'm not familiar enough with the program to have thought of
that. Thanks.
73,
Frank
KF6E
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 6:16 PM N3SL wrote:
> Just a suggestion - works for me: Create a F/H "configuration" and toggle
> to it. Two mouse clicks.
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 4:50 PM Frank Kirs
Between the Hold Tx Freq checkbox and the Call 1st checkbox, there is room
for several more checkboxes. One I would suggest is Fox/Hound mode. I would
also suggest this automatically set Split to either Rig or Fake It, which
could be selected somewhere else.
If the menus are turned off, it takes a
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