Re: [zfs-discuss] help me....

2008-08-03 Thread Nathan Kroenert
It starts with Z, which makes it the one of the last to be considered if it's listed alphabetically? Nathan. Rahul wrote: > hi > can you give some disadvantages of the ZFS file system?? > > plzz its urgent... > > help me. > > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > __

Re: [zfs-discuss] help me....

2008-08-03 Thread Neal Pollack
Rahul wrote: > hi > can you give some disadvantages of the ZFS file system?? > Yes, it's too easy to administer. This makes it rough to charge a lot as a sysadmin. All the problems, manual decisions during fsck and data recovery, head-aches after a power failure or getting disk drives mixed up

Re: [zfs-discuss] help me....

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008, Rahul wrote: > hi > can you give some disadvantages of the ZFS file system?? Yes. It provides very poor performance for large-file random-access read/write of 128 bytes at a time. Is that enough info? ZFS is great but it is not perfect in every regard. It is easy to build

Re: [zfs-discuss] help me....

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Netherton
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 20:46 -0700, Rahul wrote: > hi > can you give some disadvantages of the ZFS file system?? In what context ? Relative to what ? Bob ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/l

[zfs-discuss] help me....

2008-08-03 Thread Rahul
hi can you give some disadvantages of the ZFS file system?? plzz its urgent... help me. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] how to make two disks of one pool mirror both readable separately.

2008-08-03 Thread wan_jm
there are two disks in one ZFS pool used as mirror. So we all know that there are the same date on the two disks. I want to know, how can migrate them into two separate pools, so I can later read & write them separately.( just as in UFS mirror, we can mount each separately). thanks. This m

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot mirror

2008-08-03 Thread Richard Elling
Malachi de Ælfweald wrote: > I have to say, looking at that confuses me a little. How can the two > disks be mirrored when the partition tables don't match? Welcome to ZFS! In traditional disk mirrors, disk A block 0 == disk B block 0 disk A block 1 == disk B block 1 ... disk A b

Re: [zfs-discuss] Scrubbing only checks used data?

2008-08-03 Thread Richard Elling
Jens wrote: > Hi there, > > I am currently evaluating OpenSolaris as a replacement for my linux > installations. I installed it as a xen domU, so there is a remote chance, > that my observations are caused by xen. > > First, my understanding of "zpool [i]scrub[/i]" is "Ok, go ahead, and rewrite

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Matt Harrison
Richard Elling wrote: > Matt Harrison wrote: >> Aug 2 14:46:06 exodus Error for Command: read_defect_data >> Error Level: Informational >> > > key here: "Informational" > >> Aug 2 14:46:06 exodus scsi: [ID 107833 kern.notice]Requested >> Block: 0 Error B

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Matt Harrison
Johan Hartzenberg wrote: > On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Matt Harrison > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Miles Nordin wrote: "mh" == Matt Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> mh> I'm worried about is if the entire batch is failing slowly >>> mh> and will all die at the same

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Richard Elling
Matt Harrison wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've been running a zfs fileserver for about a month now (on snv_91) and > it's all working really well. I'm scrubbing once a week and nothing has > come up as a problem yet. > > I'm a little worried as I've just noticed these messages in > /var/adm/messag

Re: [zfs-discuss] Disabling disks' write-cache in J4200 with ZFS?

2008-08-03 Thread Richard Elling
Todd E. Moore wrote: > I'm working with a group that wants to commit all the way to disk > every single write - flushing or bypassing all the caches each time. > The fsync() call will flush the ZIL. As for the disk's cache, if > given the entire disk, ZFS enables its cache by default. Rather

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Matt Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Miles Nordin wrote: > >> "mh" == Matt Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > mh> I'm worried about is if the entire batch is failing slowly > > mh> and will all die at the same time. > > > Matt, can you

[zfs-discuss] Scrubbing only checks used data?

2008-08-03 Thread Jens
Hi there, I am currently evaluating OpenSolaris as a replacement for my linux installations. I installed it as a xen domU, so there is a remote chance, that my observations are caused by xen. First, my understanding of "zpool [i]scrub[/i]" is "Ok, go ahead, and rewrite [b]each block of each de

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Matt Harrison
Miles Nordin wrote: >> "mh" == Matt Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > mh> I'm worried about is if the entire batch is failing slowly > mh> and will all die at the same time. > > If you can download smartctl, you can use the approach described here: > > http://web.Ivy.NET/~ca

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Ross Smith
Hi Matt, If it's all 3 disks, I wouldn't have thought it likely to be disk errors, and I don't think it's a ZFS fault as such. You might be better posting the question in the storage or help forums to see if anybody there can shed more light on this. Ross > Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:48:03 +

[zfs-discuss] Setting up a zpool that can attached to a failover zone

2008-08-03 Thread Chris
Hi I have 2 Servers with zones. I have LUNs on a SAN that will contain application data which will be switched from zone A on Server 1 to zone A-failover on Server 2. What is the best way to set this up? I think that it should work if i create a zpool and use legacy mountpoints. I have to do

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I trust ZFS?

2008-08-03 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 11:42 -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Zfs makes human error really easy. For example > >$ zpool destroy mypool Note that "zpool destroy" can be undone by "zpool import -D" (if you get to it before the disks are overwritten).

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can I trust ZFS?

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
According to the hard disk drive guide at http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/index.html, a wopping 36% of data loss is due to human error. 49% of data loss was due to hardware or system malfunction. With proper pool design, zfs addresses most of the 49% of data loss due to hardwar

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Miles Nordin
> "mh" == Matt Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mh> I'm worried about is if the entire batch is failing slowly mh> and will all die at the same time. If you can download smartctl, you can use the approach described here: http://web.Ivy.NET/~carton/rant/ml/raid-findingBadDisks-0

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Paul Fisher wrote: >> > Syslog is funny in that it does a lot of open/write/close cycles so that > rotate can work trivially. Those are meta-data updates and on NFS each > implies a COMMIT. This leads us back to the old "solaris nfs over zfs > is slow" discussion, where we ta

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Matt Harrison
Ross wrote: > Hi, > > First of all, I really should warn you that I'm very new to Solaris, I'll > happily share my thoughts but be aware that there's not a lot of experience > backing them up. > >>From what you've said, and the logs you've posted I suspect you're hitting >>recoverable read err

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot mirror

2008-08-03 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
I have to say, looking at that confuses me a little. How can the two disks be mirrored when the partition tables don't match? On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:00 AM, andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, I've put up some screenshots and a copy of my menu.lst to clarify my > setup: > > http://sites.goog

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot mirror

2008-08-03 Thread andrew
OK, I've put up some screenshots and a copy of my menu.lst to clarify my setup: http://sites.google.com/site/solarium/zfs-screenshots Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org h

[zfs-discuss] zfs-auto-snapshot: Use at ? SMF prop caching?

2008-08-03 Thread Nils Goroll
Hi Tim, > So, I've got a pretty basic solution: > > Every time the service starts, we check for the existence of a snapshot > [...] - if one doesn't exist, then we take a snapshot under the policy set > down by that instance. This does sound like a valid alternative solution for this requiremen

[zfs-discuss] cron and roles (zfs-auto-snapshot 0.11 work)

2008-08-03 Thread Nils Goroll
My previous reply via email did not get linked to this post, so let me resend it: can roles run cron jobs ?), >>> No. You need a user who can take on the role. >> Darn, back to the drawing board. > I don't have all the context on this but Solaris RBAC roles *can* run cron > jobs. Roles don

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS boot mirror

2008-08-03 Thread andrew
The second disk doesn't have the root pool on slice 2 - it is on slice 0 as with the first disk. All I did differently was to create a slice 2 covering the whole Solaris FDISK primary partition. If you then issue this command as before: installgrub /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/dsk/c5

Re: [zfs-discuss] are these errors dangerous

2008-08-03 Thread Ross
Hi, First of all, I really should warn you that I'm very new to Solaris, I'll happily share my thoughts but be aware that there's not a lot of experience backing them up. >From what you've said, and the logs you've posted I suspect you're hitting >recoverable read errors. ZFS wouldn't flag th

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs FAT

2008-08-03 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Rahul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can u site the differences b/w ZFS and FAT filesystems?? > Assuming you are serious, the technical bits can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems But there is a bigger, fundamental difference bet

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs FAT

2008-08-03 Thread Ian Collins
Rahul wrote: > Can u site the differences b/w ZFS and FAT filesystems?? > > You are joking, aren't you? Have you read any of the ZFS documentation? Ian ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/lis

[zfs-discuss] ZFS vs FAT

2008-08-03 Thread Rahul
Can u site the differences b/w ZFS and FAT filesystems?? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss