Re: [zfs-discuss] Poor iSCSI performance [SEC=PERSONAL]

2009-08-26 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Duncan Groenewald dagroenew...@optusnet.com.au wrote: That was a typo, missing an s - I copied the incorrect line from the terminal... sbdadm create-lu /dev/zvol/rdsk/storagepool/backups/isci/macbook_dg Blog is here...

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Tristan Ball
The intended use is NFS storage to back some VMWare servers running a range of different VM's, including Exchange, Lotus Domino, SQL Server and Oracle. :-) It's a very random workload, and all the research I've done points to mirroring as the better option for providing a better total IOP/s. The

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Ross
Here's one horror story of mine - ZFS taking over 20 minutes to flag a drive as faulty, with the entire pool responding so slowly during those 20 minutes that it crashed six virtual machines running off the pool: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=369265#369265 There are some

[zfs-discuss] zpool scrub started resilver, not scrub

2009-08-26 Thread Albert Chin
# cat /etc/release Solaris Express Community Edition snv_105 X86 Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 15 December 2008 # zpool status tww pool: tww

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hangs with indefinite writes

2009-08-26 Thread noguaran
Okay, I'm trying to do whatever I can NONDESTRUCTIVELY to fix this. I have almost 5TB of data that I can't afford to lose (baby pictures and videos, etc.). Since no one has seen this problem before, maybe someone can tell me what I need to do to make a backup of what I have now so I can try

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Michael Herf
I'm using the Caviar Green drives in a 5-disk config. I downloaded the WDTLER utility and set all the drives to have a 7-second timeout, like the RE series have. WDTLER boots a small DOS app and you have to hit a key for each drive to adjust. So this might take time for a large raidz2. --

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hangs with indefinite writes

2009-08-26 Thread Victor Latushkin
On 21.08.09 14:52, No Guarantees wrote: Every time I attempt to import a particular RAID-Z pool, my system hangs. Specifically, if I open up a gnome terminal and input '$ pfexec import zpool mypool', the process will never complete and I will return to the prompt. If I open up another terminal,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Thomas Burgess
I've been running ZFS under FreeBSD which is experimental, and i've had nothing but great luckso i guess it depeneds on a number of things. I went with FreeBSD because the hardware i had wasn't supported in solarisi expected problems but honestly, it's been rock solidit's survived all

[zfs-discuss] Save modification to liveUSB

2009-08-26 Thread k1rld5
Hello all, I used liveUSB Creator to create a OpenSolaris LiveUSB. It's booting fast and easy. Mainly I'll need it to deploy packages (use it for jumpstart or so). I'll need to stick on a USB stick (16GB) and be able to reach it from the network. So far it is good, but now the issue is that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Tristan Ball wrote: Complete disk failures are comparatively rare, while media or transient errors are far more common. As a media I/O or transient error on the It seems that this assumption is is not always the case. The expensive small-capacity SCSI/SAS enterprise

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Troels Nørgaard Nielsen
Hi Tim Cook. If I was building my own system again, I would prefer not to go with consumer harddrives. I had a raidz pool containing eight drives on a snv108 system, after rebooting, four of the eight drives was so broken they could not be seen by format, let alone the zpool they belonged

[zfs-discuss] How to find poor performing disks

2009-08-26 Thread Simon Gao
Hi, I'd appreciate if anyone can point me how to identify poor performing disks that might have dragged down performance of the pool. Also the system logged following error about one of the drives. Does it show the disk was having problem? Aug 17 13:45:56 zfs1.domain.com scsi: [ID 107833

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Joseph L. Casale
If I was building my own system again, I would prefer not to go with consumer harddrives. I had a raidz pool containing eight drives on a snv108 system, after rebooting, four of the eight drives was so broken they could not be seen by format, let alone the zpool they belonged to. This was with

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Adam Sherman
But the real question is whether the enterprise drives would have avoided your problem. A. -- Adam Sherman +1.613.797.6819 On 2009-08-26, at 11:38, Troels Nørgaard Nielsen t...@t86.dk wrote: Hi Tim Cook. If I was building my own system again, I would prefer not to go with consumer

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 25, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Tristan Ball wrote: What I’m worried about that time period where the pool is resilvering to the hot spare. For example: one half of a mirror has failed completely, and the mirror is being rebuilt onto the spare – if I get a read error from the remaining half

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Neal Pollack
On 08/25/09 10:46 PM, Tim Cook wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:22 AM, thomas tjohnso...@gmail.com mailto:tjohnso...@gmail.com wrote: I'll admit, I was cheap at first and my fileserver right now is consumer drives. nbsp;You can bet all my future purchases will be of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Tim Cook
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Neal Pollack neal.poll...@sun.com wrote: Luck or design/usage ? Let me explain; I've also had many drives fail over the last 25 years of working on computers, I.T., engineering, manufacturing, and building my own PCs. Drive life can be directly affected

[zfs-discuss] problem with zfs

2009-08-26 Thread serge goyette
HI i'm using latest official solaris version 10/06 = patches and i'm getting problem after import of zpool sometime when i do mount -F zfs zpool/fs /mountpoint the command freeze and after this these is no way i can umount, destroy or anything all commands will hung even rebooting

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to find poor performing disks

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Meilicke
You can try: zpool iostat pool_name -v 1 This will show you IO on each vdev at one second intervals. Perhaps you will see different IO behavior on any suspect drive. -Scott -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem with zfs

2009-08-26 Thread serge goyette
for release sorry i meant Solaris 10 10/08 s10s_u6wos_07b SPARC Copyright 2008 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Use is subject to license terms. Assembled 27 October 2008 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem with zfs

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Lawson
The latest official Solaris 10 is actually 05/09. There are update patch bundles available on Sunsolve for free download that will take you to 05/09. It may well be worth applying these to see if they remedy the problem for you. They certainly allow you to bring ZFS up to version 10 from

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem with zfs

2009-08-26 Thread serge goyette
actually i did apply the latest recommended patches SunOS VL-MO-ZMR01 5.10 Generic_139555-08 sun4v sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise-T5120 but still perhaps you are not doing much import - export because when i do not do, i do not experience much problem but when doing it, outch ... a reboot will

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread thomas
Hi Richard, So you have to wait for the sd (or other) driver to timeout the request. By default, this is on the order of minutes. Meanwhile, ZFS is patiently awaiting a status on the request. For enterprise class drives, there is a limited number of retries on the disk before it reports an

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem with zfs

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Lawson
serge goyette wrote: actually i did apply the latest recommended patches Recommended patches and upgrade clusters are different by the way. 10_Recommended != Upgrade Cluster that. Upgrade cluster will upgrade the system to a effectively the Solaris Release that the upgrade cluster is

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to find poor performing disks

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Lawson
Also you may wish to look at the output of 'iostat -xnce 1' as well. You can post those to the list if you have a specific problem. You want to be looking for error counts increasing and specifically 'asvc_t' for the service times on the disks. I higher number for asvc_t may help to isolate

Re: [zfs-discuss] problem with zfs

2009-08-26 Thread serge goyette
Hum i know the recommended and the update patches bundles according to the readme Patch 139555-08 is the kernel patch associated with the Solaris 10 5/09 release (Solaris 10 Update 7). so i believe i'm up to date i understand i'm a bit vague but i cannot provide any Zpool or zfs output until

Re: [zfs-discuss] Using consumer drives in a zraid2

2009-08-26 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 26, 2009, at 1:17 PM, thomas wrote: Hi Richard, So you have to wait for the sd (or other) driver to timeout the request. By default, this is on the order of minutes. Meanwhile, ZFS is patiently awaiting a status on the request. For enterprise class drives, there is a limited number of

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to find poor performing disks

2009-08-26 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
Maybe you can run a Dtrace probe using Chime? http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/chime Initial Traces - Device IO -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Poor iSCSI performance [SEC=PERSONAL]

2009-08-26 Thread Duncan Groenewald
No unfortunately the type does not fix it !! Still stuck !! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Poor iSCSI performance [SEC=PERSONAL]

2009-08-26 Thread Duncan Groenewald
Cool - just found the problem. I had to upgrade the zpool using upgrade zpool storagepool onwards... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Poor iSCSI performance [SEC=PERSONAL]

2009-08-26 Thread Duncan Groenewald
All fixed now ... Backup has been running for maybe a minute or two and has backed up over 1GB. Thanks guys... Here is the complete command set I used... Creating the ZFS iSCSI target using COMSTAR. 1. DO NOT use ZFS set shareiscsi=on ... 2. MAKE SURE your zpool is upgraded. Run zpool

[zfs-discuss] How are you supposed to remove faulted spares from pools?

2009-08-26 Thread Chris Siebenmann
We have a situation where all of the spares in a set of pools have gone into a faulted state and now, apparently, we can't remove them or otherwise de-fault them. I'm confidant that the underlying disks are fine, but ZFS seems quite unwilling to do anything with the spares situation. (The

Re: [zfs-discuss] How to find poor performing disks

2009-08-26 Thread Simon Gao
Running iostat -nxce 1, I saw write sizes alternate between two raidz groups in the same pool. At one time, drives on cotroller 1 have larger writes (3-10 times) than ones on controller2: extended device statistics errors --- r/sw/s