Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > You are welcome to your beliefs.   There are many groups that do standards > that do not meet in public.  In fact, I can't think of any standards bodies > that *do* hold open meetings. > I think he may mean open to public application. N

Re: [zfs-discuss] GPU acceleration of ZFS

On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Anatoly wrote: > Good day, > > I think ZFS can take advantage of using GPU for sha256 calculation, > encryption and maybe compression. Modern video card, like 5xxx or 6xxx ATI > HD Series can do calculation of sha256 50-100 times faster than modern 4 > cores CPU.

Re: [zfs-discuss] native ZFS on Linux

Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:18:26AM -0800, David E. Anderson wrote: I see that Pinguy OS, an uber-Ubuntu o/s, includes native ZFS support. Any pointers to more info on this? Probably using this[1]. doubtful.. It's more likely based on http://zfsonlinux.org/ Wh

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

The reason for not being able to use ZFS under Linux is not the license used by ZFS but the missing will for integration. Several lawyers explained already why adding ZFS to the Linux would just create a "collective work" that is permitted by the GPL. lalala.. http://zfsonlinux.org/

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS ... open source moving forward?

Linder, Doug wrote: Why do you want them to "GPL" ZFS? In what way would that save you annoyance? I actually think Doug was trying to say he wished Oracle would open the development and make the source code open-sourced, not necessarily GPL'd. Yes. I don't really care which spec

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

Garrett D'Amore wrote: That is a major concern. But the problem is also that the ABIs created by different compilers vary. You can't mix g++ and studio generated code, for example. That's not FUD, its technical fact. Not today, but it's my understanding this will be possible in the future

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 07:58 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 07:48 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Out of interest, what language do you recommend

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

Ian Collins wrote: On 08/20/10 07:48 AM, Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Out of interest, what language do you recommend? Depends on the job -- I'm a huge fan of choosing the right tool fo

Re: [zfs-discuss] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 20:14 +0100, Daniel Taylor wrote: On 19 Aug 2010, at 19:42, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Out of interest, what language do you recommend? Depends on the job -- I'm a huge fan of choosing the right tool for the job. I just think C++ tries to be j

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Totally TO] 64-bit vs 32-bit applications

Garrett D'Amore wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 21:25 +1200, Ian Collins wrote: On 08/19/10 08:51 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ian Collins wrote: A quick test with a C++ application I'm working with which does a lot of string and container manipulation shows it runs about 10% s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

Tim Cook wrote: 2010/8/16 "C. Bergström" <mailto:codest...@osunix.org>> Joerg Schilling wrote: "C. Bergström" mailto:codest...@osunix.org>> wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

Joerg Schilling wrote: "C. Bergström" wrote: I absolutely guarantee Oracle can and likely already has dual-licensed BTRFS. No.. talk to Chris Mason.. it depends on the linux kernel too much already to be available under anything, but GPLv2 If he really believes thi

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

Tim Cook wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:21 AM, David Dyer-Bennet > wrote: On Sun, August 15, 2010 20:44, Peter Jeremy wrote: > Irrespective of the above, there is nothing requiring Oracle to release > any future btrfs or ZFS improvements (or even bug

Re: [zfs-discuss] Opensolaris is apparently dead

Erast wrote: On 08/13/2010 01:39 PM, Tim Cook wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/13/opensolaris_is_dead/ I'm a bit surprised at this development... Oracle really just doesn't get it. The part that's most disturbing to me is the fact they won't be releasing nightly snapshots. It app

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS development moving behind closed doors

Gary Mills wrote: If this information is correct, http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=133043 further development of ZFS will take place behind closed doors. Opensolaris will become the internal development version of Solaris with no public distributions. The community has been

Re: [zfs-discuss] Oracle to no longer support ZFS on OpenSolaris?

Ken Gunderson wrote: Greetings All: Granted there has been much fear, uncertainty, and doubt following Oracle's take over of Sun, but I ran across this on a FreeBSD mailing list post dated 4/20/2010" "...Seems that Oracle won't offer support for ZFS on opensolaris" This guy probably 1)

Re: [zfs-discuss] [indiana-discuss] future of OpenSolaris

Thomas Burgess wrote: "There may be some things we choose not to open source going forward, similar to how MySQL manages certain value-add[s] at the top of the stack," Roberts said. "It's important to understand the plan now is to deliver value again out of our IP investment, while at the same

Re: [zfs-discuss] [indiana-discuss] future of OpenSolaris

Troy Campbell wrote: On 02/24/10 12:04 PM, Marc Nicholas wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Troy Campbell mailto:troy.campb...@fedex.com>> wrote: http://www.oracle.com/technology/community/sun-oracle-community-continuity.html Half way down it says: Will Oracle support

Re: [zfs-discuss] future of OpenSolaris

Eugen Leitl wrote: Oracle's silence is starting to become a bit ominous. What are the future options for zfs, should OpenSolaris be left dead in the water by Suracle? I have no insight into who core zfs developers are (have any been fired by Sun even prior to the merger?), and who's paying them.

Re: [zfs-discuss] freeNAS moves to Linux from FreeBSD

Andrey Kuzmin wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Michael DeMan (OA) wrote: Args for FreeBSD + ZFS: - Limited budget - We are familiar with managing FreeBSD. - We are familiar with tuning FreeBSD. - Licensing model Args against OpenSolari

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS dedup issue

Colin Raven wrote: Hey Cindy! Any idea of when we might see 129? (an approximation only). I ask the question because I'm pulling budget funds to build a filer, but it may not be in service until mid-January. Would it be reasonable to say that we might see 129 by then, or are we looking at sum

[zfs-discuss] Where is green-bytes dedup code?

Green-bytes is publicly selling their hardware and dedup solution today. From the feedback of others with testing from someone on our team we've found the quality of the initial putback to be buggy and not even close to production ready. (That's fine since nobody has stated it was production

Re: [zfs-discuss] dedupe is in

Why didn't one of the developers from green-bytes do the commit? :P ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dumb idea?

Miles Nordin wrote: "pt" == Peter Tribble writes: pt> Does it make sense to fold this sort of intelligence into the pt> filesystem, or is it really an application-level task? in general it seems all the time app writers want to access hundreds of thousands of files by uni

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs code and fishworks "fork"

Eugen Leitl wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 01:40:12PM +0800, "C. Bergström" wrote: So use Nexenta? Got data you care about? Verify extensively before you jump to that ship.. :) So you're saying Nexenta have been known to drop bits on the floor, unprovoked?

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs code and fishworks "fork"

Tim Cook wrote: PS: Not having enough engineers to support a growing and paying customer base is a *good* problem to have. The opposite is much, much worse. So use Nexenta? Got data you care about? Verify extensively before you jump to that ship.. :) __

Re: [zfs-discuss] when will zfs have deduplication ?

tranceash wrote: Zfs will have deduplication in summer 2009 was the news ? But there seems to be no news when will it have this feature??? http://www.codestrom.com/wandering/2009/09/faq-zfs-deduplication.html ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discus

Re: [zfs-discuss] deduplication

Brandon High wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Brandon High wrote: The keynote was given on Wednesday. Any more willingness to discuss dedup on the list now? Two months and still no word on deduplication. Is there anything to announce? Can we make a FAQ on this somewhere?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Petabytes on a budget - blog

Mario Goebbels wrote: As some Sun folks pointed out 1) No redundancy at the power or networking side 2) Getting 2TB drives in a x4540 would make the numbers closer 3) Performance isn't going to be that great with their design but...they might not need it. 4) Silicon Image chipsets. Their SATA

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz

glidic anthony wrote: thanks but if it's experimental i prefer don't use. My server was use to an nfs share for an esxi so i prefer it was stable. But i thnik the best way it's to add an other hdd to make the install and make my raidz with this 3 disks Do you really consider OpenSolaris prod

Re: [zfs-discuss] raidz

glidic anthony wrote: Hi, I have only 3 hdd and i want make a raidz. But i think it's not possible to install opensolaris on a raidz system. So what is the solution? Maybe to create a lice on the first disk (where opensolaris was install) and create a raidz with this slice and the two other di

Re: [zfs-discuss] Shrinking a zpool?

Martin wrote: You are the 2nd customer I've ever heard of to use shrink. This attitude seems to be a common theme in ZFS discussions: "No enterprise uses shrink, only grow." Maybe. The enterprise I work for requires that every change be reversible and repeatable. Every change requires

Re: [zfs-discuss] [storage-discuss] ZFS and deduplication

James Lever wrote: Nathan Hudson-Crim, On 04/08/2009, at 8:02 AM, Nathan Hudson-Crim wrote: Andre, I've seen this before. What you have to do is ask James each question 3 times and on the third time he will tell the truth. ;) fwiw.. I totally could see this in a joking context.. I won't tell

Re: [zfs-discuss] Letter to Greenbytes WAS: ZFS and deduplication

James C. McPherson wrote: On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Andre Lue wrote: Was de-duplication slated for snv_119? No. If not can anyone say which snv_xxx and in which form will we see it (synchronous, asynchronous both)? No, and no. If anyone from Greenbytes is rea

Re: [zfs-discuss] article on btrfs, comparison with zfs

James C. McPherson wrote: An introduction to btrfs, from somebody who used to work on ZFS: http://www.osnews.com/story/21920/A_Short_History_of_btrfs *very* interesting article.. Not sure why James didn't directly link to it, but courteous of Valerie Aurora (formerly Henson) http://lwn.net

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best ways to contribute WAS: Fed up with ZFS causing data loss

Rob Terhaar wrote: I'm sure this has been discussed in the past. But its very hard to understand, or even patch incredibly advanced software such as ZFS without a deep understanding of the internals. It will take quite a while before anyone can start understanding a file system which was develop

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fed up with ZFS causing data loss

Ross wrote: Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8, based on the Marvell chipset. I figured it was the best available at the time since it's using the same chipset as the x4500 Thumper servers. Our next machine will be using LSI controllers, but I'm still not entirely happy with the way ZFS handles timeout

Re: [zfs-discuss] Apple Removes Nearly All Reference To ZFS

Bob Friesenhahn wrote: Only a lunatic would rely on Apple for a mission-critical server application. It's funny, but I suspect you just called a large portion of the mac userbase lunatics.. While my reasons my differ I wouldn't disagree ;) ./C ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] how to prevent that two clients open the same document

Tobs wrote: Hi There, We're running the latest OpenSolaris version with the build-in CIFS service. We experienced the problem that some users were opening the same Excel document at the same time. One was using MS Excel, the other one OpenOffice. This happend by accident. At the end, both wer

Re: [zfs-discuss] eon or nexentacore or opensolaris

Anil Gulecha wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bogdan M. Maryniuk wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Joe S wrote: EON ZFS NAS http://eonstorage.blogspot.com/ No idea. NexentaCore Platform (v2.0 RC3) http://www.nexenta.org/os/NexentaCore Personally, I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Zfs and b114 version

Jorgen Lundman wrote: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b114/ This URL makes me think that if I just sit down and figure out how to compile OpenSolaris, I can try b114 now^h^h^h eventually ? I am really eager to try out the new quota support.. has someone already tried compiling it perhap

[zfs-discuss] Anyone willing to sponsor an ARC case for grub2?

Hi.. I'm not exactly familiar with the ARC/sponsor process, but thought I'd toss this out since Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko mentioned the benefits of his port for grub2. I think by doing some sort of formal process we'll actually get feedback about the best way to move forward. There are

[zfs-discuss] preview zfs port to grub2 + raidz

Hi zfsers Just wanted to ping the list since one of the osunix/grub devs has been working hard at porting zfs to grub2. I don't think he's subscribed to zfs-discuss so quoting his original email and cc'ing him. Drop by #osunix on freenode if you're interested in the raidz/compressed rpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

Bob Friesenhahn wrote: I don't know if anyone has noticed that the topic is "google summer of code". There is only so much that a starving college student can accomplish from a dead-start in 1-1/2 months. The ZFS equivalent of eliminating world hunger is not among the tasks which may be reas

[zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

For reasons which I don't care about Sun may not apply to be a gsoc organization this year. However, I'm not discouraged from trying to propose some exciting zfs related ideas. On/off list feel free to send your vote, let me know if you can mentor or if you know a company that could use it.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Details on raidz boot + zfs patents?

Mike Gerdts wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:53 AM, "C. Bergström" wrote: The other question that I am less worried about is would this violate any patents.. I mean.. Sun added the initial zfs support to grub and this is essentially extending that, but I'm not aware of any pa

[zfs-discuss] Details on raidz boot + zfs patents?

I'm trying to help collect information about implementing raidz boot support. At the same time there is also the possibility that the work would overlap and take advantage of other grub 2 features allowing booting from drives larger than 1T. So if any zfs developers are kind enough to give

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

Blake wrote: Gnome GUI for desktop ZFS administration With the libzfs java bindings I am plotting a web based interface.. I'm not sure if that would meet this gnome requirement though.. Knowing specifically what you'd want to do in that interface would be good.. I planned to compare it to

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

Blake wrote: Gnome GUI for desktop ZFS administration On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Blake wrote: zfs send is great for moving a filesystem with lots of tiny files, since it just handles the blocks :) I'd like to see: pool-shrinking (and an option to shrink disk A when i want disk B

Re: [zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

Blake wrote: Care to share any of those in advance? It might be cool to see input from listees and generally get some wheels turning... raidz boot support in grub 2 is pretty high on my list to be honest.. Which brings up another question of where is the raidz stuff mostly? usr/src/uts/com

[zfs-discuss] GSoC 09 zfs ideas?

Hi everyone. I've got a couple ideas for good zfs GSoC projects, but wanted to stir some interest. Anyone interested to help mentor? The deadline is around the corner so if planning hasn't happened yet it should start soon. If there is interest who would the org administrator be? Thanks

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best practice for swap and root pool

dick hoogendijk wrote: > On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:29:50 +0100 > "C. Bergström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> To clear up some confusion.. >> This is from a default indiana install >> format -e >> verify.. >> Part TagFlag

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best practice for swap and root pool

Darren J Moffat wrote: > dick hoogendijk wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:51:04 + >> Chris Ridd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> I'm replacing the disk with my rpool with a mirrored pool, and >>> wondering how best to do that. >>> >>> The disk I'm replacing is partitioned with r

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best practice for swap and root pool

Chris Ridd wrote: > On 26 Nov 2008, at 13:12, dick hoogendijk wrote: > > >> On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:51:04 + >> Chris Ridd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> I'm replacing the disk with my rpool with a mirrored pool, and >>> wondering how best to do that. >>> >>> The disk I'm replacing

Re: [zfs-discuss] "ZFS, Smashing Baby" a fake???

Will Murnane wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:40, Scara Maccai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Still don't understand why even the one on http://www.opensolaris.com/, "ZFS >> – A Smashing Hit", doesn't show the app running in the moment the HD is >> smashed... weird... >> Sorry this is

[zfs-discuss] External storage recovery?

I had to hard power reset the laptop... Now I can't import my pool.. zpool status -x bucket UNAVAIL 0 0 0 insufficient replicas c6t0d0UNAVAIL 0 0 0 cannot open cfgadm usb8/4 usb-storage connectedconfigured ok --

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

Joerg Schilling wrote: > Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require >> derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in >> that companies can take CDDL code, modify it, and keep the content closed. >> Th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

Matt Aitkenhead wrote: > I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a > sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. > The latter is shining through. > > Regards, > Matt > Hi Matt, I'd like to make our correspondence in public if you do

[zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

Hi all In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product launched and maybe some of the people that follow this list have had a chance to take a look at the code/product more closely? Wstuart asked how they wer

Re: [zfs-discuss] Greenbytes/Cypress

Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Today while reading EE Times I read an article about a startup company > named Greenbytes which will be offering a system called Cypress which > supports deduplication and arrangement of data to minimize power > consumption. It seems that deduplication is at the file le