Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2010-01-01 Thread Orvar Korvar
raidz2 is recommended. As discs get large, it can take long time to repair raidz. Maybe several days. With raidz1, if another discs blows during repair, you are screwed. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-31 Thread Paul Armstrong
Rather than hacking something like that, he could use a Disk on Module (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_on_module) or something like http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nanoSSD-Drive-Elecom-Japan-SATA,8538.html (which I suspect may be a DOM but I've not poked around sufficiently to see). Paul

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-31 Thread Thomas Burgess
For the OS, I'd drop the adapter/compact-flash combo and use the stripped down Kingston version of the Intel x25m MLC SSD. If you're not familiar with it, the basic scoup is that this drive contains half the flash memory (40Gb) *and* half the controller channels (5 versus 10) of the Intel

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-31 Thread Erik Trimble
Thomas Burgess wrote: For the OS, I'd drop the adapter/compact-flash combo and use the stripped down Kingston version of the Intel x25m MLC SSD. If you're not familiar with it, the basic scoup is that this drive contains half the flash memory (40Gb) *and* half the controller

[zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
I'm about to build a ZFS based NAS and i'd like some suggestions about how to set up my drives. The case i'm using holds 20 hot swap drives, so i plan to use either 4 vdevs with 5 drives or 5 vdevs with 4 drives each (and a hot spare inside the machine) The motherboard i'm getting has 4 pci-x

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Brian
I can't answer your question - but I would like to see more details about the system you are building (sorry if off topic here). What motherboard and what compact flash adapters are you using? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Henrik Johansson
Hello, On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: I'm about to build a ZFS based NAS and i'd like some suggestions about how to set up my drives. The case i'm using holds 20 hot swap drives, so i plan to use either 4 vdevs with 5 drives or 5 vdevs with 4 drives each (and a hot

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
ok, but how should i connect the drives across the controllers? i'll have 3 pci-x cards each with 8 sata ports 2 pci-x bus with 133 Mhz and 2 with 100 Mhz and, onboard with 6 sata portsso what would be the best method of connecting the drives if i go with 4 raidz vdevs or 5 raidz vdevs?

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Dec 30, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Thomas Burgess wrote: ok, but how should i connect the drives across the controllers? Don't worry about the controllers. They are at least an order of magnitude more reliable than the disks and if you are using HDDs, then you will have plenty of performance. --

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: and, onboard with 6 sata portsso what would be the best method of connecting the drives if i go with 4 raidz vdevs or 5 raidz vdevs? Try to distribute the raidz vdevs as evenly as possible across the available SATA controllers. In other

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Dec 30, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: and, onboard with 6 sata portsso what would be the best method of connecting the drives if i go with 4 raidz vdevs or 5 raidz vdevs? Try to distribute the raidz vdevs as evenly as

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: and, onboard with 6 sata portsso what would be the best method of connecting the drives if i go with 4 raidz vdevs or 5 raidz vdevs? Try to distribute

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Richard Elling wrote: He's limited by GbE, which can only do 100 MB/s or so... the PCI busses, bridges, memory, controllers, and disks will be mostly loafing, from a bandwidth perspective. In other words, don't worry about it. Except that cases like 'zfs scrub' and

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: Just curious, but in your ideal situation, is it considered best to use 1 controller for each vdev or user a different controler for each device in the vdev (i'd guess the latter but ive been wrong before) From both a fault-tolerance standpoint,

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Thomas Burgess
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: Just curious, but in your ideal situation, is it considered best to use 1 controller for each vdev or user a different controler for each device in the vdev (i'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Dec 30, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Richard Elling wrote: He's limited by GbE, which can only do 100 MB/s or so... the PCI busses, bridges, memory, controllers, and disks will be mostly loafing, from a bandwidth perspective. In other words, don't worry

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Richard Elling
On Dec 30, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Thomas Burgess wrote: Just curious, but in your ideal situation, is it considered best to use 1 controller for each vdev or user a different controler for each device in the vdev (i'd guess the latter but ive been

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Richard Elling wrote: Disagree. Scrubs and resilvers are IOPS bound. This is a case of it depends. On both of my Solaris systems, scrubs seem to be bandwidth-limited. However, I am not using raidz or SATA and the drives are faster than the total connectivity. Bob --

Re: [zfs-discuss] best way to configure raidz groups

2009-12-30 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Thomas Burgess wonsl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to build a ZFS based NAS and i'd like some suggestions about how to set up my drives. The case i'm using holds 20 hot swap drives, so i plan to use either 4 vdevs with 5 drives or 5 vdevs with 4 drives each