Angus, I apologize if I offended you in any way.  I did read your reply, as well as 
every bit of information I could find on the Apache site in regard to this topic.  I 
understand that by granting all intellectual rights to the ASF there is not much 
reason to sue the individual, and that the ASF is able to defend itself.  But I live 
in the US and here there are very few laws that protect the individual from corporate 
abuse (although some states are better at it... unfortunately I literally live in the 
"wild west"), and frivolous lawsuits against the author are considered normal 
"negotiating tactic".  This which puts us authors at risk regardless of wrongdoing.  
But thanks anyway for the clarification.

-----Original Message-----
From: ext Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 4:51 PM
To: James Developers List
Subject: RE: Contributing a mailet


> But since I will not be protected from them, I don't think I can 
> risk contributing it.

I didn't say that, what I said, if you had given me the courtesy to read the reply I 
had the courtesy to send you was 

"the ASF protects individuals against action 
 being taken
 personally against them by itself being the owner, and licensor of the
 software. It is therefore a duty of all commiters to ensure that 
 nothing is"

If you contributed your mailet, and *if* we chose to accept it, there would be nothing 
anyone could gain by sueing *you*.
You would have granted a perpetual and irrevocable licence to the ASF to distribute 
your contribution under the terms of the ASFL, and therfore they would have to sue the 
ASF.

We would be unlikely to accept a contribution that was likely to result in legal 
action, but we're certainly not going to reject a contribution which is entirely 
legitimate, no matter what commercial interests it might annoy. 
Consider how much httpd annoys Microsoft, should the ASF be nice and stop distributing 
that?.. hell no!

d.



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