Anne, 

Thanks for the awesome elaboration. It is now clear to me what SOA
governance means. I am however also reading the W3C papers link that
Steve mentioned in his mail. 

Since I was in the product team of a Web Services Mgmt product,
Formerly known as Confluent Software and now a part of Oracle, I
assumed that SOA Governance was related to WS mgmt. However, since the
term was new, I was trying to get information to agree or dis-agree
with my assumption. 

>From your explanation, I see that my assumption was correct. 

Thanks a bunch again. 

Cheers
G.


--- In [email protected], Anne Thomas
Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Based on my experience working with clients, I disagree that the term
> "governance" is scoped to the subject of the W3C workshop on
constraints and
> capabilities. I've written a lot about governance for Burton Group.
> Unfortunately, I can't share those reports with you because Burton Group
> reports are available only to subscribers.
> 
> But I will share with you some basic thoughts:
> 
> Governance refers to the processes that an enterprise puts in place to
> ensure that things are done right, where "right" means in accordance
with
> best practices, architectural principles, government regulations,
laws, and
> other determining factors. SOA governance refers to the processes
used to
> govern adoption and implementation of SOA.
> 
> SOA governance involves three steps:
> 
>    1. Define SOA policies
>    2. Deploy an SOA infrastructure that supports adoption of these
>    policies
>    3. Institute a set of formal processes and procedures that verify
>    compliance with these policies
> 
> SOA policies relate to issues such as:
> 
>    - · Design principles
>    - · Preferred design patterns
>    - · Application-factoring rules
>    - · Naming conventions
>    - · Metadata requirements
>    - · Documentation
>    - · Preferred products
>    - · Product selection guidelines
>    - · Preferred domain standards
>    - · Preferred industry standards
>    - · Methods for dealing with regulatory requirements
>    - · Methods for assessing security risks
>    - Methods for implementing security based on risk factor
>    - · Methods for ensuring reliability and transaction integrity·
>    - Service testing
>    -  New service deployment and staging
>    - · Service registration
>    - · Service classification
>    - · Service provisioning
>    - · Service configuration
>    - · Service monitoring
>    - · Client provisioning
>     - · Service modification
>    - · Service versioning
>    - · Impact analysis
>    - · Service level objectives (SLO)
>    - · Service level agreement (SLA) compliance tracking
>    - · Error tracking and resolution
> 
>  This list is long, but it barely scratches the surface.
> 
> Products that help with SOA governance include registries, repositories,
> software asset management systems, workflow, testing tools, web services
> management.
> 
> No one vendor covers the full SOA governance lifecycle.
> 
> Leading players in the SOA governance software market include:
> 
>    - Systinet and WebLayers, who provide policy management systems
>    (repository-based system for managing the lifecycle of codified
policies) as
>    well as policy compliance testing tools and integrated workflow
for managing
>    approval processes. Mindreef also does some compliance testing,
but at a
>    much smaller scope.
>    - Systinet, Infravio, Flashline, and LogicLibrary, who provide
>    registries, repositories, and/or software asset management
systems, which
>    are extremely useful for managing SOA assets and which can be
used as a
>    gatekeeper for institution of governance approval processes at
various
>    points in the service lifecycle (dev, testing, staging, provisioning,
>    revisions)
>    - AmberPoint, Actional, Layer 7, and Reactivity, who provide support
>    for governance at the service provisioning and runtime stages.
> 
> Anne
> 
> On 11/19/05, Gautham Kasinath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > Thanks for the brief explanation. I am reading the workshop materials
> > from W3C on the topic, following your advice.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Gautham Kasinath
> > --- In [email protected], Steve
> > Ross-Talbot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gautham,
> > >
> > > Normally the term governance as applied to SOA is based on the
notion
> > > of static governance.
> > > This is the sort of thing that WS-Policy (which is not a
standard) is
> > > all about. A recent workshop
> > > run by W3C looked at wider notions of governance including the more
> > > interesting form which is
> > > dynamic governance.
> > >
> > > It probably makes sense to take a peek at the W3C workshop papers to
> > > get a better understanding
> > > of what governance is all about.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Steve T
> > >
> > > W3C Workshop on Constraints and Capabilities for Web Services
> > > http://www.w3.org/2004/09/ws-cc-program.html#papers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 Nov 2005, at 00:33, Gautham Kasinath wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > What exactly is SOA governance? Is it goverining an SOA framework,
> > > > like in monitoring request-response, SLA etc?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Gautham Kasinath
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], John Crupi
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you like to start with the use-cases/scenarios first to
> > helpÂ
> > > > > narrow the problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > jc
> > > > > -----------------------------------------
> > > > > John Crupi
> > > > > CTO, Enterprise Web Services Practice
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> > > > > AIM: JohnCrupi
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> > > > > On Nov 18, 2005, at 12:22 AM, Tilak Mitra wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am looking for some real world implementation of SOA
> > > > > > Governance, starting right from a project inception
> > > > > > i.e. Strategy and Visioning , through Design,
> > > > > > Implementation and right through operational and
> > > > > > runtime.
> > > > > > Any white paper / research work or material in any
> > > > > > other form would be helpful.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Tilak
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