On Dec 9, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

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>
> Neither is a silver bullet. I don't know of any WS-* folks who  
> seriously
> think that WS-* is a silver bullet. Its *amazing* to me how many REST
> people (especially on this list) seem to really believe that REST  
> is the
> silver bullet

REST people do not think that. What they (at least I) think is that  
SOA/WS-* is
just Corba/DCOM by another name; that you get the exact same  
architectural
properties with SOA/WS-* as you get with a resonably smart design  
Corba system.

(Language independence and tunneling through firewalls are not really
a very major improvement architecturally speaking).


> and that it has been a silver bullet for 15 years and
> people just have not known about it. Wow, it must be really comfy in
> that world ..

Yes, it is comfy in this world. Less pages of specs to read, heaps of
thoroughly tested frameworks etc. 100% interoprability at the protocol
level (MS HTTP servers work just fine with IBM clients), having  
guarranteed
system properties (by using a really thought out architectural  
style), no vendor
lock in, nothing to spend on software licences but still having  
virtually thousands
of support programmers - to name just a few.

Yepp, it is indeed very comfy...so very comfy that we cannot resist  
the temptation to
restlessly try to convert as many people as possible.

<esoteric-mode>
Yes, once you have had your Web epiphany, you just have to spread the  
word.
(A bit like George Clinton and the Mother Ship I guess...but that is  
another story :-)
</esoteric-mode>

> are there even 70 virgins that come with getting it? ;-)

Oh boy...you'd be surprised what else you get as part of the price  
but that is
unfortunately a secret.

Whetever....in the end, I do hope that simplicity will prevail.

Jan

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