On Dec 9, 2006, at 11:24 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > On Fri, 2006-12-08 at 17:51 -0500, Steve Vinoski wrote: > > > Its a bit surprising how such a simple architectural pattern > > > requires so > > > much of explanation eh? ;-) > > > > Umm, remind me again how many pages of WS-* specs are there? > > A lot- because WS-* has standardized a lot more stuff that REST has. > However, my point was that even the teeny bit that REST has > standardized > is sooooo poorly understood as a platform for application integration. > > Don't believe that? Go read the thread on a RESTful lightbulb on this > list and see how much it took to get some degree of consensus. And of > course the current ROA/SOA thread. > It's poorly understood, at least by many. So what? In contrast to WS- *, it is radically different from CORBA or DCOM or RPC. > Neither is a silver bullet. I don't know of any WS-* folks who > seriously > think that WS-* is a silver bullet. Its *amazing* to me how many REST > people (especially on this list) seem to really believe that REST > is the > silver bullet and that it has been a silver bullet for 15 years and > people just have not known about it. Wow, it must be really comfy in > that world .. are there even 70 virgins that come with getting it? ;-) > I find it amazing that most criticism of REST comes from people who *don't* understand REST, while criticism of WS-* comes more often than not comes from people who *do* understand WS-* (and sometimes even have been involved in its standardization).
Many former WSDL/SOAP/WS-* proponents have discovered REST at some point in time, and "switched" to believing this to be a better approach. I'm not aware of a single instance of the inverse happening ... Stefan -- Stefan Tilkov, http://www.innoq.com/blog/st/ > Sanjiva. > -- > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation; http:// > www.opensource.lk/ > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://www.wso2.com/ > Director; Open Source Initiative; http://www.opensource.org/ > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://www.apache.org/ > Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa; http://www.cse.mrt.ac.lk/ > > >
