On Mar 20, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Russ White <[email protected]> wrote:

> How often do you think an attacker would bother with taking out a ROA
> without taking out the route as well?

Invert the question... Of the thousands of entities that could today 
inject (hostile) routes and do a hijack today, how many of them will 
be able to also mount an attack against the RPKI infrastructure?

> But this misses the larger point
> --if the ROAs are supposed to provide security, then either:
> 
> 1. Removing the ROAs is a problem in terms of increased risk, which is a
> problem which needs to be addressed.

I never argued with addressing the risks that might be posed; I was pointing 
out that the risk does not equate (on its own) with a reachability event, as 
alluded to by the paper.

/John
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