That was bad planning :(. I was thinking of doing a lightening, but policy
is more important.

...Skeeve

On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Dean Pemberton <d...@internetnz.net.nz>
wrote:

> We have the first policy sig session on at the same time as the Lightning
> talks on Thursday.
> It will be interesting to see which attracts more operators.
>
> On Saturday, 28 February 2015, Jessica Shen <shen...@cnnic.cn
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','shen...@cnnic.cn');>> wrote:
>
>> Owen,
>>
>> What do you mean by 'If it’s _THE_ track at that time'?
>>
>> Jessica Shen
>>
>>
>> > -----原始邮件-----
>> > 发件人: "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com>
>> > 发送时间: 2015-02-28 05:33:59 (星期六)
>> > 收件人: "Shen Zhi" <shen...@cnnic.cn>
>> > 抄送: "Mark Tinka" <mark.ti...@seacom.mu>, sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
>> > 主题: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in
>> the ASN eligibility criteria
>> >
>> >
>> > > On Feb 26, 2015, at 22:16 , Shen Zhi <shen...@cnnic.cn> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Good point, getting greater operator participation in the policy
>> processes is
>> > > important. APRICOT and APNIC having joint meeting is one of the good
>> > > ways to bring more operators to APNIC policy discussion. I noticed on
>> the
>> > > Policy SIG session @APNIC 39, there will be some short background
>> instroductions
>> > > by APNIC staff (could be someone from the community who is familiar
>> with the
>> > > policy history in future) before the proposal discussion, I think
>> it's a very good
>> > > way to faciliate the new comers to understand and join the discussion.
>> > >
>> > > I'm thinking if we set part of or whole Policy SIG session on the
>> same days
>> > > when APRICOT or APCERT sessions are running, say Tuesday, or
>> Wednesday, will
>> > > it help that more operators attend the policy discussions?
>> >
>> > That depends. If it’s a parallel track to something operators would
>> consider more interesting,
>> > then probably not.
>> >
>> > If it’s _THE_ track at that time, then it might work, or, it might turn
>> into shopping time, etc.
>> >
>> > As near as I can tell, the problem is less one of accessibility than
>> interest.
>> >
>> > Owen
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > > Jessica Shen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----邮件原件-----
>> > >> 发件人: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net
>> > >> [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] 代表 Owen DeLong
>> > >> 发送时间: 2015年2月27日 4:42
>> > >> 收件人: Mark Tinka
>> > >> 抄送: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
>> > >> 主题: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in
>> the
>> > >> ASN eligibility criteria
>> > >>
>> > >> In theory, this is why each RIR has a public policy process open to
>> any who
>> > >> choose to participate.
>> > >>
>> > >> The fact that operator participation in the process is limited
>> (voluntarily by
>> > >> the operators themselves) continues to cause problems for operators.
>> This
>> > >> not only affects RIRs, but also the IETF, ICANN, and other
>> multi-stakeholder
>> > >> fora covering various aspects of internet governance and development.
>> > >>
>> > >> If you have a suggestion for getting greater operator participation
>> in these
>> > >> processes, I’m all ears.
>> > >>
>> > >> Owen
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> While I tend to agree that the current draft policy in its form
>> needs
>> > >>> more work, I empathize with the long-held concern of detachment
>> > >>> between the RIR and network operations. This is a well-documented
>> > >>> issue that affects several other policies within various RIR
>> > >>> communities, and not just this one nor APNIC. Take assigned prefix
>> > >>> length and what operators filter against as an example.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Globally, perhaps we would do well to find way to make RIR
>> operations
>> > >>> and policy design reflect the practical day-to-day changes taking
>> > >>> place within operator networks, or at the very least, make a
>> provision
>> > >>> for them that sufficiently covers what the future may throw up.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I don't think any of us have the answers now, but it starts from
>> > >> somewhere.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Mark.
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