That's what we strive for.
Something for everyone :)


On Saturday, 28 February 2015, Skeeve Stevens <ske...@eintellegonetworks.com>
wrote:

> That was bad planning :(. I was thinking of doing a lightening, but policy
> is more important.
>
> ...Skeeve
>
> On Saturday, February 28, 2015, Dean Pemberton <d...@internetnz.net.nz
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d...@internetnz.net.nz');>> wrote:
>
>> We have the first policy sig session on at the same time as the Lightning
>> talks on Thursday.
>> It will be interesting to see which attracts more operators.
>>
>> On Saturday, 28 February 2015, Jessica Shen <shen...@cnnic.cn> wrote:
>>
>>> Owen,
>>>
>>> What do you mean by 'If it’s _THE_ track at that time'?
>>>
>>> Jessica Shen
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----原始邮件-----
>>> > 发件人: "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com>
>>> > 发送时间: 2015-02-28 05:33:59 (星期六)
>>> > 收件人: "Shen Zhi" <shen...@cnnic.cn>
>>> > 抄送: "Mark Tinka" <mark.ti...@seacom.mu>, sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
>>> > 主题: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification in
>>> the ASN eligibility criteria
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > On Feb 26, 2015, at 22:16 , Shen Zhi <shen...@cnnic.cn> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Good point, getting greater operator participation in the policy
>>> processes is
>>> > > important. APRICOT and APNIC having joint meeting is one of the good
>>> > > ways to bring more operators to APNIC policy discussion. I noticed
>>> on the
>>> > > Policy SIG session @APNIC 39, there will be some short background
>>> instroductions
>>> > > by APNIC staff (could be someone from the community who is familiar
>>> with the
>>> > > policy history in future) before the proposal discussion, I think
>>> it's a very good
>>> > > way to faciliate the new comers to understand and join the
>>> discussion.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'm thinking if we set part of or whole Policy SIG session on the
>>> same days
>>> > > when APRICOT or APCERT sessions are running, say Tuesday, or
>>> Wednesday, will
>>> > > it help that more operators attend the policy discussions?
>>> >
>>> > That depends. If it’s a parallel track to something operators would
>>> consider more interesting,
>>> > then probably not.
>>> >
>>> > If it’s _THE_ track at that time, then it might work, or, it might
>>> turn into shopping time, etc.
>>> >
>>> > As near as I can tell, the problem is less one of accessibility than
>>> interest.
>>> >
>>> > Owen
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Cheers,
>>> > > Jessica Shen
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >> -----邮件原件-----
>>> > >> 发件人: sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net
>>> > >> [mailto:sig-policy-boun...@lists.apnic.net] 代表 Owen DeLong
>>> > >> 发送时间: 2015年2月27日 4:42
>>> > >> 收件人: Mark Tinka
>>> > >> 抄送: sig-policy@lists.apnic.net
>>> > >> 主题: Re: [sig-policy] [New Policy Proposal] prop-114: Modification
>>> in the
>>> > >> ASN eligibility criteria
>>> > >>
>>> > >> In theory, this is why each RIR has a public policy process open to
>>> any who
>>> > >> choose to participate.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> The fact that operator participation in the process is limited
>>> (voluntarily by
>>> > >> the operators themselves) continues to cause problems for
>>> operators. This
>>> > >> not only affects RIRs, but also the IETF, ICANN, and other
>>> multi-stakeholder
>>> > >> fora covering various aspects of internet governance and
>>> development.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> If you have a suggestion for getting greater operator participation
>>> in these
>>> > >> processes, I’m all ears.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Owen
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> On Feb 25, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.ti...@seacom.mu>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> While I tend to agree that the current draft policy in its form
>>> needs
>>> > >>> more work, I empathize with the long-held concern of detachment
>>> > >>> between the RIR and network operations. This is a well-documented
>>> > >>> issue that affects several other policies within various RIR
>>> > >>> communities, and not just this one nor APNIC. Take assigned prefix
>>> > >>> length and what operators filter against as an example.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Globally, perhaps we would do well to find way to make RIR
>>> operations
>>> > >>> and policy design reflect the practical day-to-day changes taking
>>> > >>> place within operator networks, or at the very least, make a
>>> provision
>>> > >>> for them that sufficiently covers what the future may throw up.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I don't think any of us have the answers now, but it starts from
>>> > >> somewhere.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Mark.
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>>
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>>
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>>
>
>
> --
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>


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