The Policy-SIG is also open to anyone where as the consensus at the AMM is
members only.
It also seemed like it gave people a time to get additional input/feedback
between the Policy-SIG and the AMM.

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On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Aftab Siddiqui <aftab.siddi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> What I can recall, the objection was more members join AMM rather
> Policy-SIG therefore the consensus at Policy-SIG is not actual consensus of
> the members at the event. I hope secretariat can suggest what other issues
> were registered.
>
> Regards,
>
> Aftab A. Siddiqui
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Skeeve Stevens <ske...@v4now.com> wrote:
>
>> Let's try again?  What were the objections last time?
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Dean Pemberton <d...@internetnz.net.nz>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree.  Thats why I was in favour of abandoning the AMM consensus.
>>> Unfortunately the policy failed.
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Izumi Okutani <iz...@nic.ad.jp> wrote:
>>> > Great to know this Philip.
>>> >
>>> > We had simliar issue last year, where we discussed about the proposal
>>> on
>>> > reserving a space for DNS anycast, and due to parallel session, some
>>> > operators could not attend. It got rediscussed at the AMM and the
>>> > consensus at Policy SIG got reverted. I think it's not efficient that
>>> > consensus decisions needs to be rediscussed due to parallel sessions
>>> and
>>> > not everyone could participate at Policy SIG.
>>> >
>>> > I provided input to an APNIC staff after the session last year and
>>> would
>>> > like to raise this again.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Izumi
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 2015/03/02 12:07, Philip Smith wrote:
>>> >> FWIW, a few years ago we did have at least two APRICOTs where there
>>> was
>>> >> nothing in parallel with the Thursday Policy SIG. It meant that the
>>> >> technical/ops part of the conference finished on Wednesday. APRICOT
>>> 2009
>>> >> was one example - for reference. (And tech/ops people left on
>>> Wednesday
>>> >> night.)
>>> >>
>>> >> But we reverted to putting regular conference content in parallel with
>>> >> the Policy SIG following requests and feedback for that.
>>> >>
>>> >> And yes, if there is clear desire from the Policy SIG to be
>>> standalone,
>>> >> the APRICOT PC will pay very close attention to that desire. :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> philip
>>> >> --
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Skeeve Stevens wrote on 2/03/2015 12:04 :
>>> >>> OK... so a year in the future...   that should easily be dealt with
>>> by
>>> >>> talking to the Apricot Program Committee... as it is a very
>>> reasonable
>>> >>> and obvious thing to do.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is it possible for this meeting?  Competing event for Policy means
>>> there
>>> >>> will be little reason to entice people to come .
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ...Skeeve
>>> >>>
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>>> >>> <http://www.v4now.com/>
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>> facebook.com/v4now
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>>> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>> >>> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ;
>>> >>> blog: www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Masato Yamanishi <
>>> myama...@gmail.com
>>> >>> <mailto:myama...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>      Skeeve,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>      Unfortunately, I don't think we can change the schedule in this
>>> meeting.
>>> >>>      I'm asking about future meetings.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>      Regards,
>>> >>>      Masato
>>> >>>
>>> >>>      2015-03-01 18:46 GMT-08:00 Skeeve Stevens <ske...@v4now.com
>>> >>>      <mailto:ske...@v4now.com>>:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          Masato-san,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          Are you suggesting that we are able to change either Policy
>>> or
>>> >>>          Lightening talks for this event?  I would love to go to
>>> both.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          I think this is only really a problem at Apricot events, not
>>> >>>          APNIC events.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          ...Skeeve
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
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>>> >>>          <http://www.v4now.com/>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
>>> >>>          <tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383> ; skype://skeeve
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          facebook.com/v4now
>>> >>>          <http://facebook.com/v4now> ; <
>>> http://twitter.com/networkceoau>linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>> >>>          <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ;
>>> >>>          blog: www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
>>> >>>
>>> >>>          On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Masato Yamanishi
>>> >>>          <myama...@gmail.com <mailto:myama...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>              Dear All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>>              While this point was raised by Jessica, Skeeve, and Dean
>>> >>>              during the ML discussion,
>>> >>>              it is also big question for me, which day and time-slot
>>> is
>>> >>>              best for Policy SIG.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>              Historically, we have SIG session somewhere in Thu.
>>> >>>              However, do you think it is a barrier for wider
>>> participation?
>>> >>>              (e.g. many operators are leaving in Thu PM?)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>              Also, which session should not be in parallel with
>>> Policy SIG?
>>> >>>              (I also don't want to miss Lightning talks as Skeeve
>>> mentioned)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>              Please share your thoughts on this list and/or offline
>>> in
>>> >>>              Fukuoka.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>              Regards,
>>> >>>              Masato Yamanishi
>>> >>>              APNIC Policy SIG Chair (Acting)
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