I agree.  Thats why I was in favour of abandoning the AMM consensus.
Unfortunately the policy failed.
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On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Izumi Okutani <iz...@nic.ad.jp> wrote:
> Great to know this Philip.
>
> We had simliar issue last year, where we discussed about the proposal on
> reserving a space for DNS anycast, and due to parallel session, some
> operators could not attend. It got rediscussed at the AMM and the
> consensus at Policy SIG got reverted. I think it's not efficient that
> consensus decisions needs to be rediscussed due to parallel sessions and
> not everyone could participate at Policy SIG.
>
> I provided input to an APNIC staff after the session last year and would
> like to raise this again.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Izumi
>
>
>
> On 2015/03/02 12:07, Philip Smith wrote:
>> FWIW, a few years ago we did have at least two APRICOTs where there was
>> nothing in parallel with the Thursday Policy SIG. It meant that the
>> technical/ops part of the conference finished on Wednesday. APRICOT 2009
>> was one example - for reference. (And tech/ops people left on Wednesday
>> night.)
>>
>> But we reverted to putting regular conference content in parallel with
>> the Policy SIG following requests and feedback for that.
>>
>> And yes, if there is clear desire from the Policy SIG to be standalone,
>> the APRICOT PC will pay very close attention to that desire. :-)
>>
>> philip
>> --
>>
>>
>> Skeeve Stevens wrote on 2/03/2015 12:04 :
>>> OK... so a year in the future...   that should easily be dealt with by
>>> talking to the Apricot Program Committee... as it is a very reasonable
>>> and obvious thing to do.
>>>
>>> Is it possible for this meeting?  Competing event for Policy means there
>>> will be little reason to entice people to come .
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
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>>>
>>> twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ;
>>> blog: www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Masato Yamanishi <myama...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:myama...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      Skeeve,
>>>
>>>      Unfortunately, I don't think we can change the schedule in this 
>>> meeting.
>>>      I'm asking about future meetings.
>>>
>>>      Regards,
>>>      Masato
>>>
>>>      2015-03-01 18:46 GMT-08:00 Skeeve Stevens <ske...@v4now.com
>>>      <mailto:ske...@v4now.com>>:
>>>
>>>          Masato-san,
>>>
>>>          Are you suggesting that we are able to change either Policy or
>>>          Lightening talks for this event?  I would love to go to both.
>>>
>>>          I think this is only really a problem at Apricot events, not
>>>          APNIC events.
>>>
>>>
>>>          ...Skeeve
>>>
>>>          *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
>>>          *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks service
>>>          ske...@v4now.com <mailto:ske...@v4now.com> ; www.v4now.com
>>>          <http://www.v4now.com/>
>>>
>>>          Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
>>>          <tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383> ; skype://skeeve
>>>
>>>          facebook.com/v4now
>>>          <http://facebook.com/v4now> ; 
>>> <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>>          <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
>>>
>>>          twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ;
>>>          blog: www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>          IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
>>>
>>>          On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Masato Yamanishi
>>>          <myama...@gmail.com <mailto:myama...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>              Dear All,
>>>
>>>              While this point was raised by Jessica, Skeeve, and Dean
>>>              during the ML discussion,
>>>              it is also big question for me, which day and time-slot is
>>>              best for Policy SIG.
>>>
>>>              Historically, we have SIG session somewhere in Thu.
>>>              However, do you think it is a barrier for wider participation?
>>>              (e.g. many operators are leaving in Thu PM?)
>>>
>>>              Also, which session should not be in parallel with Policy SIG?
>>>              (I also don't want to miss Lightning talks as Skeeve mentioned)
>>>
>>>              Please share your thoughts on this list and/or offline in
>>>              Fukuoka.
>>>
>>>              Regards,
>>>              Masato Yamanishi
>>>              APNIC Policy SIG Chair (Acting)
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