On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Izumi Okutani <iz...@nic.ad.jp> wrote:

> Great to know this Philip.
>
> We had simliar issue last year, where we discussed about the proposal on
> reserving a space for DNS anycast, and due to parallel session, some
> operators could not attend. It got rediscussed at the AMM and the consensus
> at Policy SIG got reverted.


Wow! as a region outsider; If Policy SIG is similar "in purpose" to what
AFRINIC call the public policy meeting (PPM) then i will say the policy
chair may have been lucky to have gotten away with that decision Izumi ;-)

In the AFRINIC region, we do have situations where there are few people in
the room due to other engagement (a parallel session or people travelling
same day because PPM happen to be on the last day), so it could become a
challenge to determine what number of people in the room would be good
enough to discuss a policy and observe consensus. However since PPM are
announced with prior noticed as defined by PDP we have always ensured to
run the meeting and observe consensus and such decision can only be
reverted on discussion list (last call period)

Cheers!

>
>
>
> On 2015/03/02 12:07, Philip Smith wrote:
> > FWIW, a few years ago we did have at least two APRICOTs where there was
> > nothing in parallel with the Thursday Policy SIG. It meant that the
> > technical/ops part of the conference finished on Wednesday. APRICOT 2009
> > was one example - for reference. (And tech/ops people left on Wednesday
> > night.)
> >
> > But we reverted to putting regular conference content in parallel with
> > the Policy SIG following requests and feedback for that.
> >
> > And yes, if there is clear desire from the Policy SIG to be standalone,
> > the APRICOT PC will pay very close attention to that desire. :-)
> >
> > philip
> > --
> >
> >
> > Skeeve Stevens wrote on 2/03/2015 12:04 :
> >> OK... so a year in the future...   that should easily be dealt with by
> >> talking to the Apricot Program Committee... as it is a very reasonable
> >> and obvious thing to do.
> >>
> >> Is it possible for this meeting?  Competing event for Policy means there
> >> will be little reason to entice people to come .
> >>
> >>
> >> ...Skeeve
> >>
> >> *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
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> >> <http://www.v4now.com/>
> >>
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> >>
> >> facebook.com/v4now
> >> <http://facebook.com/v4now> ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>
> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
> >> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
> >>
> >> twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ;
> >> blog: www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/>
> >>
> >>
> >> IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Masato Yamanishi <myama...@gmail.com
> >> <mailto:myama...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>      Skeeve,
> >>
> >>      Unfortunately, I don't think we can change the schedule in this
> meeting.
> >>      I'm asking about future meetings.
> >>
> >>      Regards,
> >>      Masato
> >>
> >>      2015-03-01 18:46 GMT-08:00 Skeeve Stevens <ske...@v4now.com
> >>      <mailto:ske...@v4now.com>>:
> >>
> >>          Masato-san,
> >>
> >>          Are you suggesting that we are able to change either Policy or
> >>          Lightening talks for this event?  I would love to go to both.
> >>
> >>          I think this is only really a problem at Apricot events, not
> >>          APNIC events.
> >>
> >>
> >>          ...Skeeve
> >>
> >>          *Skeeve Stevens - Senior IP Broker*
> >>          *v4Now - *an eintellego Networks service
> >>          ske...@v4now.com <mailto:ske...@v4now.com> ; www.v4now.com
> >>          <http://www.v4now.com/>
> >>
> >>          Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383
> >>          <tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383> ; skype://skeeve
> >>
> >>          facebook.com/v4now
> >>          <http://facebook.com/v4now> ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau
> >linkedin.com/in/skeeve
> >>          <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve>
> >>
> >>          twitter.com/theispguy <http://twitter.com/theispguy> ;
> >>          blog: www.theispguy.com <http://www.theispguy.com/>
> >>
> >>
> >>          IP Address Brokering - Introducing sellers and buyers
> >>
> >>          On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Masato Yamanishi
> >>          <myama...@gmail.com <mailto:myama...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>              Dear All,
> >>
> >>              While this point was raised by Jessica, Skeeve, and Dean
> >>              during the ML discussion,
> >>              it is also big question for me, which day and time-slot is
> >>              best for Policy SIG.
> >>
> >>              Historically, we have SIG session somewhere in Thu.
> >>              However, do you think it is a barrier for wider
> participation?
> >>              (e.g. many operators are leaving in Thu PM?)
> >>
> >>              Also, which session should not be in parallel with Policy
> SIG?
> >>              (I also don't want to miss Lightning talks as Skeeve
> mentioned)
> >>
> >>              Please share your thoughts on this list and/or offline in
> >>              Fukuoka.
> >>
> >>              Regards,
> >>              Masato Yamanishi
> >>              APNIC Policy SIG Chair (Acting)
> >>
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