wow! thanks Mat, that is brilliant and helpful, and thanks to Jeromy for
piping in too, thats very useful stuff

Beck

On 26 May 2011 15:01, Mathew French <mathew.fre...@subscribe-hr.com.au>wrote:

> Hi Bec.
>
> Yes, I have come accross that with Mail Chimp and Also VR. When you set
> your website up, make sure you have facilities on your site to capture
> e-mail, as well as options to sign in for News. This is what they will look
> at when authorising your account.
>
> In terms of Mailing list, it is a little bit of a grey area. You can go to
> providers and ask them for what they call opt-in lists. Some providers will
> give you the list to send, or, they will ask you for your template and send
> on your behalf. If they give you the list they will "seed" it to make sure
> you are only using it once. You then get the enquiries based on the blast
> for your database (or Sales Made). This is what you would call renting a
> "once only" list. which costs about 1/3 of purchasing the list outright.
>
> I can vouch for companies like incnet and contactability. Have used them
> and their lists are great.
>
> When you do the blast, What you can do here is get some Help Desk Software,
> and insert live chat on your site, This was you can see in real time who is
> visiting (Track IP Addresses). Now, this may not be of use if your are
> sellinf B to C as Consumers don't have IP addresses you can easily track,
> but for B to B, you can. This will really help you get some runs on the
> board early.
>
> You may also like to approach Industry Associations that have Lists of
> their members that they will let you market to. Once again, they will ask
> you for your content (Mail Template) and send on your behalf.
>
> When you do this you need to be quite clear about what the purpose of the
> campaign is. Is it to generate leads (Prospect Names) that you can then
> continue to market to, or is it to make sales. THis will allow you to define
> the message in the blast. Remember, in e-marketing, the message needs to be
> short and simple. Otherwise you will not get the best results. For example,
> we do e-marketing based on Generating Leads to then use to build our
> database and then continue to work the list. (You will have about 5 Seconds
> to Engage). You need to write the message in your Tampate so that in the
> first 2-3 Sentences, you have convinved the reader about what you are
> promoting so that want to then click the Call To Action.
>
> You can also think about bolting your CRM system onto your website to
> automatically send templates to businesses or people based on Ket stages of
> the sales process. This is not easy to do and takes time and technical
> expertise, but is a good phase 2-3 when you are up and running.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Mat
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Beck Rands <beckra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Matthew
>>
>> All the stuff you say here is good and I had not heard of Vertical
>> Response so thanks for that.
>>
>> I just need to ask about purchased lists here.
>>
>> The reason being I did some marketing for a friends' business a few weeks
>> ago who had very little idea about the internet and marketing.  So I went
>> the easiest route, through mailchimp.com (who I can highly highly highly
>> recommend, they are fabulous in every way and I will certainly use them for
>> my business) with a list of 750 email addresses that my friend had provided.
>> As well as FB Twitter, bugging them to start a blog etc
>>
>> She had gathered these email addresses by what she saw as legitimate means
>> over a period of a number of years. Unfortunately because these people
>> hadn't signed up for this specific newsletter we were branded spammers and
>> the account was suspended, which took a fair bit of wiggling and explaining
>> to get out of. So being classed as a spammer (using purchased lists or lists
>> that were not obtained legally) can throw a spanner in the works, and
>> untangling the mess can take time and be quite disheartening to the new
>> business owner.
>>
>> I thought I would just throw that out there as an experience that I had
>> the misfortune to encounter and I have learned that it can end up being more
>> of a pain in the arse than a benefit.
>>
>> Has anyone else had a similar experience with being branded a spammer?
>>
>> How did others build their email lists?
>>
>> Beck
>>
>>
>> On 26 May 2011 09:18, Mathew French <mathew.fre...@subscribe-hr.com.au>wrote:
>>
>>> Get Your SEO Right.
>>> Learn about CPC advertising and how you can reduce your cost through have
>>> good web and good content.
>>>
>>> Get a Blog up and Running. I am not technical but am OK at Writing and we
>>> are getting good exposure through key words from our blog. Word Press is
>>> optimised well out of the box.
>>> Remember to make the content meaningful and place key words in it for
>>> maximum effect.
>>>
>>> Also, try to look at purchasing some lists. Not sure what you target
>>> market is but this is a good effective way to start driving traffic. Use an
>>> e-mail tool like vertical response.
>>>
>>> These types of things are going to get you out these in the shortest
>>> possible time and with the best bang for you buck.
>>>
>>> YOu need to track things to make sure your campaigns are working well.
>>>
>>> Put your website on some sort of CMS so you can make changes to content
>>> easily.
>>>
>>> Use Viral Sharing through Social Media to try and also get know in
>>> specific groups.
>>>
>>> Hope this makes sense.
>>>
>>> These things take your time to work through and put together. Most these
>>> things relate to Owned Content rather than purchased Content. In the long
>>> run, will be very powerful for you.
>>>
>>> Mathew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, doogirl <oliviamel...@hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Let me introduce myself, my name is Olivia, I am totally new to SB. I
>>>> am about to embark in possibly the scariest and most exciting thing I
>>>> have ever done. I am starting an online business (retail), it's still
>>>> early days for me. I have had this niggiling idea for years and
>>>> decided to finally take the punt into the online world, problem is I
>>>> am not a technical person! I am really looking to hear from other
>>>> young entreprenuer who started online companies, who weren't already
>>>> guru's. Luckily I have found some people who are advising me and
>>>> helping with the legal side of things to get my company off the
>>>> ground, but when it comes to marketing my business (without a huge
>>>> amount of $$$$) I am a little lost. What are the best ways I can
>>>> market online without spending a lot of money?
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