http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/l/legal_fees.asp #include <std/
lawyerjokes.h>

As someone who's crossed over to the dark side, let me put it in
another way. If a client came to you without a requirements doc and
asked for a quote to code it up, what would be the answer? The problem
is not so much the law (unless a really curly question) but time
figuring out the facts (as distinguished from subjective fictions) and
mapping the possible solutions sets. Very time-consuming and
unfortunately can be open-ended at times.

Sometimes the bleeding obvious is not as intuitive as it appears.
However, legal services is an area ripe for disintermediation as 80%
of time is spent filling out forms ... but most of the value is
knowing WHICH legal forms.

Lawrence
http://nz.linkedin.com/in/drllau


On Oct 26, 6:44 pm, simran <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Kurt,
>
> Lawyers in Sydney, and that was 2008...i suspect they charge even more now!
> (yes, it was a big reputable firm, and yes, i got 3 quotes and they were all
> about the same :)
>
> I believe in paying for the right consultant, but you do expect something
> "more than the bleeding obvious"... which really should have been told to me
> in the first 15 minutes (and i would have paid for that 15 minutes and taken
> the action - which i was going to anyway). It's the, lets just ask for "all
> the relevant documentation" read it, and then give the "bleeding obvious"
> advice that bugged me! felt like i was shammed!
>
> And your email taken with a great sense of humour, i might as well get value
> for money and consider it "fee for entertainment due to my stupidity of
> going to a lawyer" and enjoy it till my time to come has push up daisies :)
>
> :)
>
> ps: next time, i am indeed coming to you, and expecting a good discount -
> you [probably alone :] have to make up for your fraternity ;)
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Kurt Falkenstein <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Simran - can you please let me know where lawyers can charge $7K per
> > day as I would like to move there. "Sham" or no sham that's some damn
> > fine cash. If you're unloading fees like this please feel free to
> > refer your legal work to me, I'll work for a measly few hundred per
> > hour "sham-free" and generally I'll fix the fee, and discount steeply
> > for startups and tech entrepeneurs. But if I can get $7K per day then
> > I'll leave the benevolence to someone else!
>
> > (I hope this is taken with the humour in which it is written).
>
> > Kurt Falkenstein
>
> > > I know what [most?] will probably say about lawyers, but in 99% of cases,
> > to
> > > me, lawyers are a sham! It's a total waste of money, people spend more
> > time
> > > protecting themselves than building (and of course, their funds go to the
> > > lawyers at rates like $7k/day! yes, i too have paid stupid fees like that
> > > for totally obvious advice!), and using their funds wisely for their
> > > venture. (Not saying with certainty don't use a lawyer, but think about
> > > whether you really need one, a simple one pager that you and your boss
> > draft
> > > that covers the spirit usually works).
>
> > > Besides, if you go consulting (/ on a retainer), you will do a new
> > contract
> > > with your current employer, and as a consultant your duties and
> > > responsibilities will be different and as long as you don't complete with
> > > them directly (which would be unethical anyway), it will be safer for
> > you.
>
> > > simran.
>
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