I'm not a fanatic about vegetarianism.  I do eat meat 2-3 times a month when 
I'm in that "social" situation or at a restauraunt that wouldn't know how to 
properly deal with a real vegetarian's needs, but I don't ever get wild 
"cravings" for meat or carbs or anything really.  I can do without meat and it 
doesn't bother me.  So far so good but it's only been about 3 months.  Lived 
that way many years ago but my husband wouldn't do it with me so I went back to 
meat again.  At least this way it will reduce the toxic load on my poor aging 
liver! :0)
Doris


----- Original Message ----
From: jessie70 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:29:07 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Dairy cows


I would love to be a vegetarian again, but after over a decade, I started 
having too many problems. I spoke with others who concur that they got run down 
on a veg diet. Part of it is people tend to eat more carbs but also people are 
now advocating a raw veg diet b/c enzymes are killed when veggies are cooked. 
However it's a lifestyle change to go raw. Jess
-----Original Message-----
From: Cinder Ella [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Dairy cows


I used to work in a lot of the major hotels in Toronto and in the staff 
cafeteria were two big blue bins.  It was for leftover food from your plate and 
food that no one wanted.  On a regular basis it was picked up and I asked where 
the food went to since it was obviously "garbage".  I was told by the hotel 
staff that it was "recycled" into feed for animals.  A company comes and picks 
it up and they mulch it all together and recycle it to put into, for example, 
cattle feed.  He didn't get into all the details but that means that chicken, 
pork, fish, white bread, gravy, spices, lamb and whatever unedible edibles went 
into it were given to other animals for feed and that's just disgusting because 
I  don't advocate eating pork since learning about Rife and knowing what the 
heck those animals are harboring in terms of parasites.  Now my cows and 
chickens have the same parasites as the pork I refuse to eat.  So guess what?  
I am now a vegetarian and don't even eat fish anymore. 
 A cow won't go into the pasture and attack a pig or a chicken to eat.  Why do 
we insist on fooling them to do otherwise?  We are a sick warped society if you 
ask me and it's going to come back to nip us in the bud.
 
On the contrary, my father lives across the road from a cattle and a dairy 
farmer.  I don't personally know what they are fed but I can tell you he feeds 
them hay because I see it in the field piled up and when they go away, my dad 
takes over and feeds them and they run free all day in the many boundless acres 
of green grass and sunshine.  I highly doubt they feed them anything else from 
hotel blue bins but this is only one farm in Canada.  Perhaps high volume farms 
are different.  But here's the conundrum.... .......... how do you know where 
the heck YOUR slab of steak came from when it's in the supermarket?  How do I 
know I'm getting farmer Jack's beef from across the road?  I don't.  (By the 
way both farms feed antibiotics and all the other nasty drugs cows get as a 
preventative measure.  Great!  So does it really matter?)  Not to me!
Doris
Vegetarian all the way [Yes I realize vegetables are bad too GMO's and all bla 
bla bla]  Maybe I'll just live on silver water or kill myself  ......... before 
going insane!!!!!!!


----- Original Message ----
From: Rebecca Thomas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:40:16 AM
Subject: CS>Dairy cows


Terry, when you say.."Then, of course, they are fed diets of various
animal parts too disgusting to mention, denied sunshine, green grass,
fresh water and exercise, and the resulting unhealthy animal produces
equally unhealthy milk. ", I don't know about ALL of your points, but I
do know for a fact that this part isn't true for any of the dairies
where we lived and worked in OR!! 
Those cows lived in large pastures, only going in to the barn for
milking twice a day, or if one was sick. 
I also think it is the Beef cattle that are fed the unspeakable parts,
and I agree that that should stop immediately, if not sooner!!! 
Becca


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