I know of thousands of people who are vegetarian in this country (US) ,
and dozens personally, though most of my friends are vegetarian, mostly
lacto, some vegan. Half of the Indian Subcontinent are lacto
vegetarian, though many of them are vegan in practice, due to the
higher cost of milk. This is not counting the thousands in Asia and
Indochina.
I think most of the problems are due to not growing up in the
lifestyle, and having good food choices ingrained. The other issue my
kids run into is the lack of good vegan food available at restaurants
etc.
I believe the greater problem is in the quality of food in the US- and
chemicals, drugs etc in the food supply, and since finding out about
what they put into genetically engineered foods, it is a wonder that
anyone is healthy. All the vitamins in the world won't help us if we
are eating contaminated food to begin with.
I am starting to believe that some of this systemic infection I have
been trying to get rid of was indroduced by the genetically engineered
food industry- they put E coli into the food, for pete's sake! Not to
mention the antibiotic resistant bacteria they put into every gene.
I do take B12, though, the Indians that eat a little dairy don't need
this.
I think if people knew of the benefits to themselves and the planet of
a natural organic vegetarian diet, more would choose it.
Kathryn
On Apr 29, 2007, at 3:29 PM, jessie70 wrote:
I would love to be a vegetarian again, but after over a decade, I
started having too many problems. I spoke with others who concur that
they got run down on a veg diet. Part of it is people tend to eat more
carbs but also people are now advocating a raw veg diet b/c enzymes
are killed when veggies are cooked. However it's a lifestyle change to
go raw. Jess
-----Original Message-----
From: Cinder Ella [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 1:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Dairy cows
I used to work in a lot of the major hotels in Toronto and in the
staff cafeteria were two big blue bins. It was for leftover food from
your plate and food that no one wanted. On a regular basis it was
picked up and I asked where the food went to since it was obviously
"garbage". I was told by the hotel staff that it was "recycled" into
feed for animals. A company comes and picks it up and they mulch it
all together and recycle it to put into, for example, cattle feed. He
didn't get into all the details but that means that chicken, pork,
fish, white bread, gravy, spices, lamb and whatever unedible edibles
went into it were given to other animals for feed and that's just
disgusting because I don't advocate eating pork since learning about
Rife and knowing what the heck those animals are harboring in terms of
parasites. Now my cows and chickens have the same parasites as the
pork I refuse to eat. So guess what? I am now a vegetarian and don't
even eat fish anymore. A cow won't go into the pasture and attack a
pig or a chicken to eat. Why do we insist on fooling them to do
otherwise? We are a sick warped society if you ask me and it's going
to come back to nip us in the bud.
On the contrary, my father lives across the road from a cattle and a
dairy farmer. I don't personally know what they are fed but I can
tell you he feeds them hay because I see it in the field piled up and
when they go away, my dad takes over and feeds them and they run free
all day in the many boundless acres of green grass and sunshine. I
highly doubt they feed them anything else from hotel blue bins but
this is only one farm in Canada. Perhaps high volume farms are
different. But here's the conundrum.... .......... how do you know
where the heck YOUR slab of steak came from when it's in the
supermarket? How do I know I'm getting farmer Jack's beef from across
the road? I don't. (By the way both farms feed antibiotics and all
the other nasty drugs cows get as a preventative measure. Great! So
does it really matter?) Not to me!
Doris
Vegetarian all the way [Yes I realize vegetables are bad too GMO's and
all bla bla bla] Maybe I'll just live on silver water or kill myself
......... before going insane!!!!!!!
----- Original Message ----
From: Rebecca Thomas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:40:16 AM
Subject: CS>Dairy cows
Terry, when you say.."Then, of course, they are fed diets of various
animal parts too disgusting to mention, denied sunshine, green grass,
fresh water and exercise, and the resulting unhealthy animal produces
equally unhealthy milk. ", I don't know about ALL of your points, but I
do know for a fact that this part isn't true for any of the dairies
where we lived and worked in OR!!
Those cows lived in large pastures, only going in to the barn for
milking twice a day, or if one was sick.
I also think it is the Beef cattle that are fed the unspeakable parts,
and I agree that that should stop immediately, if not sooner!!!
Becca
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