--On 9 November 2007 09:35:22 +0000 Dee <d...@deetroy.org> wrote:


Its not a question of demanding anything at all, it is just a question of
common courtesy, and having a bit of respect for the feelings of others,
that's all.




It is not one's job to satisfy or respect the feelings of others. Quite often their feelings are selfish.

I might rather equally risk delighting them or piss them off..... a true meeting of a true person, and how non-sycophantic people like to meet.

Isn't that is being a libertarian or lover of freedom. I am not obliged to satisfy any tom dick or harry's feelings. And, as a person trusting in spontaneity which comes of learning, lightness and civililty - on a mission - a teacher, a clown or a parent, I confound them and surprise them.

If everyone remembered this, the world would be a much nicer
place to live in, as there are enough horrible things going on to upset
people as it is.  Dee

If we were to satisfy people's ordinary feelings in discourse, either their demands would be endless, or we would be in a dirge. MOst discourse is unsatisfactory. With friends, and people who you go click with it enters another dimension of delight in truth of uncensored speech and creative spontaneity.

And so, those horrible things, all corruption, is by trying to satisfy people's feelings. Sycophantic and exploitation. By feelings, we do not mean good heart, or the feelings associated with a person's condition (maternity or whatever) - but surface feelings, any kind of whim, sensitivities, selfish desires, crackpot sensitivities, childhood-disturbances, psychological conditioning, feelers, testing, sly postures, sly indignation, egoistic indignation.

An example, I am a boss with many employees. They want to go home early - that's what they feel like most of the time. Because they are doing it for the money, only. They don't feel they are really living at work. SHould I satisfy that ubiquitous unstated feeling? No they are my slaves. Then most of them also want to get laid all the time. A way to end boredom and bring in excitement, Should I set up a dating agency within the workplace and wife-swapping rooms, and bedrooms?
The some feel aggrieved because I didn't appoint them.

I didn't tell you, my job is King - and many of my ministers want my job. SHould I give it to them? Because that feeling pervades the chambers. NO, I chop off some of their heads every few years instead. Because I have responsibilities to ALl the people: and I feel for their hearts desires, their simple needs, their pure children, their desire to work a little less and play more. Make play work. Make work play. I want to reduce the wars and taxes. Their surface feelings are despair. How can you respect despair?


NO?

My Conclusion: a difficult thing to do , mange this list. I don't think prefect decisions can be made. But no decision should rest upon a platitude like 'respect others feelings'. What you are actually doing is what is at stake.

JOhn



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