My problem with you, dude is that you claim I'm speaking in absolutes when
I clearly stated being within observational limits, which NO ONE isn't.
There are no absolutes with observation.....anywhere.
But somehow there ARE absolutes without it?
Not being able to detect a change indicates no proof there was a change
until one can be detected.
I "Proved it within the limits of available proof" [There ARE no
disciplines that don't have limits ]
You ....have proved nothing, in ANY way.
You don't back up YOUR claims to the contrary with anything but hear say.
You merely say it MUST have changed and haven't even made any
observations...OK...HOW?
At the least .....explain the mechanism of a possibility so it CAN be
considered.
You don't even explain why YOU ***think*** something is true...you just
"believe" in some Godlike theories you won't even identify.
I've run across a hundred theories that obviously are NOT true and a
hundred more that are obviously incomplete....so tell me why I should
believe one that's not even been stated, is even close to being viable.
You have yet to MAKE a point, all you have is a lousy finger with nothing
holding it up.
All you have done is dismiss years of observation, proving it wrong
BECAUSE you have done none.
What kind of chicken shit is this?
TELL ME SOMETHING USEFUL!..I'm listening ....professor.
There is a LOT I don't know..."educate me"
If you have it, spit it out.
If you don't..go get it.
You made a challenge, not a point...so step up to it.
Otherwise, it's foolishness, plain and simpleton.
Only when you know absolutely nothing, can you be absolutely right.
You don't learn a damned thing unless you are wrong.
Show me WHERE I'm wrong so I can learn something...professor.
Ode
At 10:01 AM 10/18/2008 -0400, you wrote:
I'm glad the silver worked for your friend. See, reporting anecdotal
evidence is fine. My difference with Ode is that he crossed a line,
saying "unchanged after five years", claiming he "proved it" with an EC
meter and laser pointer. That is the very soul of speaking in absolutes.
:) You and I may both feel it is plausible that someone got some benefit
from a solution stored for years, but if we pronounce the solution
"unchanged", we take on a burden of proof which we cannot hope to satisfy
(unless one of us is a lab tech with access to a well-equipped lab).
That is all I'm saying. It is such an obvious point I'd have been happy to
say it once and be done, but Ode keeps thinking he can "refute" the point.
It just isn't possible to do that, period full stop.
The problem is, there may people on this list who are impressionable
and do not possess the most refined critical thinking skills, and I fear
for such people when I see the anecdotal pronounced as absolute.
We should be more responsible than that!
I for one am very enthusiastic about CS and recommend trying it to nearly
everyone I meet who is plagued with a health issue for which they have no
effective treatment. But I *don't* make extravagant claims, I simply say "it
did this for me; it may help you too". That is IMO the responsible thing to
do.
We are all guinea pigs here, and there is much we do not know. So let's keep
it honest and try to be humble adventurers in search of the truth.
That's all I'm saying, really. I gets my goat when people make extravagant
claims they cannot back, because that can only hurt us all.
Again, apologies to Ode and anyone else I may have offended.
I hope that this clears things up, regarding my intentions.
Best Regards,
indi
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 08:44:47AM +0100, Dee wrote:
> With silver being so sensitive to *any* contaminants, I would have
> thought it would show some colour change or something, if something had
> become contaminated within it. Would not the taste change? I gave some
> three year old silver (a bit cruddy) to someone who had never used it
> and was a sceptic, but she had been to the doctors for two months with
> raging diarrhoea and sickness, and she drank the whole 250mls out of
> desperation. Hey presto, she was cured and is now a silver fan.
> Obviously this was just as efficaceous as any made recently. To me, this
> is 'proof' enough, as it was in a clear bottle and just chucked on a
> shelf somewhere for the three years. dee
>
> Indi wrote:
>> We seem to be on different pages here. When you speak in absolutes, I
>> tend to take it literally. Now I understand,
>> you speak in absolutes but are "taking a lot on faith". That's fine for
>> you, but IMO it is irresponsible to broadcast "EIS unchanges after five
>> years"
>> armed with only an EC meter and a laser pointer, for the simple reason
>> that those devices are not enough to *prove* your claims (in scientific
>> terms).
>>
>>
>
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