As best I have been able to determine, there are 3 primary excretion paths for silver:
* Silver in solution is removed by the liver through the biliary excretion path. This path has a capacity of around 1 mg of silver per day. * Large silver particles are removed by the liver by Kuypper cells. Starting at roughly 2.2 nm and larger. * Small silver particles are filtered out by the kidney. Roughly 2.2 nm and smaller. There is an overlap region where particles may be removed by either the liver or the kidney. There may some forms of silver in solution that the kidney removes but I have not found any referenced in any scientific studies. I did find a study at http://www.jnrc.org.cn/qikan/epaper/zhaiyao.asp?bsid=4825, that states that Ag(NH3)2 is removed primarily by the liver. Ag(NH3)2 is the silver/ammonia compound that Stuart Thomson proposes as being formed. I was able to find nothing relating to fulminating silver in vivo. Looking at Altman's study data, I estimate the silver excreted over the 96 days at roughly 321 mg. 115 mg through the liver (35%) and 206 mg through the kidney (65%). I also guess that Altman drank the EIS quickly so that few of the silver ions passed through the mucosal tissues. (Just FYI. The one day preliminary excretion test showed a different ratio between the liver and kidney, 20% through the liver and 80% through the kidney.) I estimated the average excretion rate through the liver at 1.2 mg/day. This is a little high for the biliary excretion path and could account for the removal of some large particles. Or perhaps it could be measurement error. (I would expect a larger measurement error in the feces depending on how homogeneous the silver was in the feces being sampled. Urine samples should be fairly accurate.) But the output is amazingly close to the predicted max biliary excretion rate and I think it does represent the elimination of silver that is in solution and not just large particles. Personally, I do not put much faith in Frank's silver ion measurement. - Steve N -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 8:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: FW: CS>WHY EIS is less likely to cause Argyria! There is another problem as well. The chemistry of silver indicates that any silver ions in the blood will quickly plate out on any silver particles in the blood, which do not register as ions. He does not confirm that the ions do not make it into the blood, we know from those who get argyria from silver compounds they do, but rather that when taken with colloidal particles are quickly plated out on the particles which are in the blood. Marshall Mike Monett wrote: > > Frank used an ion selective probe to see if there was any Ionic > > Silver in the blood after ingesting EIS. He found none. > > I remember that post. Frank was being very disingenuous. He buys a > lot of expensive lab equipment and certainly knows the capabilities > and limitations of each measurement. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
