> Frank used an ion selective probe to see if there was any Ionic > Silver in the blood after ingesting EIS. He found none.
I remember that post. Frank was being very disingenuous. He buys a lot of expensive lab equipment and certainly knows the capabilities and limitations of each measurement. The fundamental limitation in an ion selective probe is interference from other ions. Here is a description: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Interferences The most serious problem limiting use of ion-selective electrodes is interference from other, undesired, ions. No ion-selective electrodes are completely ion-specific; all are sensitive to other ions having similar physical properties, to an extent which depends on the degree of similarity. Most of these interferences are weak enough to be ignored, but in some cases the electrode may actually be much more sensitive to the interfering ion than to the desired ion, requiring that the interfering ion be present only in relatively very low concentrations, or entirely absent. In practice, the relative sensitivities of each type of ion-specific electrode to various interfering ions is generally known and should be checked for each case; however the precise degree of interference depends on many factors, preventing precise correction of readings. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_selective_electrode ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the silver ion probe, the interference is from the sodium ion which is present in blood. The minimum detectable level for silver in the probe he was using was 30 parts per billion. Frank did not say anything about the interference or the minimum detectable level. He led everyone to believe the silver ion was captured by the hydrochloric acid in the stomach and converted into silver chloride. However, this is false. Silver chloride is soluble up to about 800 parts per billion. So the silver ions are still free to be absorbed through the stomach into the bloodstream. However, they first go through the liver, which has various processes to filter out harmful substances. It is possible the liver also removes the silver ions. This is a serious problem for pharmaceuticals, which is why sublingual absorption is used whenever possible. One application is nitroglycerin for heart attacks. Speed is essential, and a high concentration is necessary. So sublingual is the only practical method. The end result is Frank's measurements show the silver ion concentration in the bloodstream is less than 30 parts per billion. My calculations show the amount absorbed using sublingual absorption is less than 18 parts per billion. This agrees well with Frank's measurements. The kinetic kill experiments by Steve Quinto show the effect of silver ions on e.coli drops of rapidly below about 1000 parts per billion. David has the url on his site, but I don't have time right now to track it down. The milk test performed by Marvin Hacker shows the minimum level needed to kill e.coli bacteria is around 400 parts per billion. (I will supply the calculations later when I have more time): http://www.pstca.com/silversol/testing/milk.htm The effect of silver ions on viruses is not known. But if the ion concentration in the body is at least an order of magnitude less than required to kill bacteria, it is reasonable to assume this will also have little effect on the serious viruses such as Herpes Zoster (shingles), which is considered one of the toughest viruses to kill. However, a single dose of less than 100 micrograms of silver ions taken sublingually completely eliminates the shingles virus, for a few days. This produces less than 18 ppb in the blood. The conclusion is the silver ion concentration in the body is insufficient by itself to have any effect on bacteria and viruses. There must be some other mechanism involved. The only other mechanism in the body is the immune system. My proposal is the immune system needs the silver ions for some purpose, such as making the proteins and enzymes needed to kill bacteria and viruses. Only a very small amount is needed. This is similar to the trace amounts of selenium and cobalt that are also required by the body to stay healthy. The conclusion is we need to focus on methods that produce the highest concentration of silver ions in solution. The current methods are not good enough. They do not produce reliable results, and they do not account for contamination from sulphur, chlorine, and other substances in the environment. These wreck the electrolysis process and can reduce the ion concentration to very low levels. However, plotting the conductance curve as demonstrated on my site solves these problems. You can find more information at http://www.pstca.com/silversol/index.htm In particular, see the section titled "Analysing the CS Process", at http://www.pstca.com/silversol/theory/analysis.htm Best Wishes, Mike M. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
