I too would like the answers to these questions Doug.  I don't think the heat 
thing would be a problem because the heating is minimal, I believe it is only 
high heat which destroys Vit C, but it would be nice to *know*.  dee

On 23 Jun 2010, at 15:01, polo wrote:

> I have been doing some study on the mechanics of ultrasonic cleaners in 
> relation to liposomes and I am curious of some of the ramifications:
>  
> 1)  Ultrasonic cleaners work by producing alternating low and high sound 
> waves. The unit I am using does 50/60 Hz. The low phase produces the bubble 
> and the high phase implodes the bubbles which produces the cleaning action so 
> desired in such cleaners. Question: I can see the low phase producing 
> liposomes, but how are the liposomes immune to the high phase that normally 
> ruptures bubbles?
>  
> 2)  Using the cheap harbor freight ultrasonic cleaner, it is recommended to 
> stir the solution and that the more shallow the solution, the higher the 
> quality of liposome. Is stirring really necessary as it is so time consuming? 
> It seems to me that the solution has natural movement all by itself from the 
> production of the ultrasonic waves.
>  
> 3)  It is suggested that the best cavitation of the solution in the 
> ultrasonic cleaner occurs when the solution is warm, plus the cavittion 
> produces heat too. How much danger is this produced heat from ultrasonic wave 
> production to ascorbic acid or the ascorbates' integrity over a long period 
> of time? Is it minimal? One would logically conclude that the more heat 
> produced, the more energetic the cavitation---would one not? If this is true, 
> would it not be more efficient to produce liposomes with specialized 
> instruments like sonifiers (pulsing and placing the lipo-C in ice water to 
> keep temps low)?
>  


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