In a message dated 6/19/00 11:39:31 AM EST, f...@health2us.com writes: << Alvin said: "Did anyone visit Bruce Marx's web site at http://colloidal.hypermart.net another great claim of superior C/S and why we shouldn't use the LVDC process...Is it BS or not?" ------------------------------------------------------ Well, I had not visited his site for years so I decided to review it for you Alvin - below are some questionable statements of his: (This is not a personal attack, text is taken in context from his widely published comparison of the LV and HVAC processes. My comments are in blue!) "Bruce Marx is an N.D., a licensed Chief Engineer (CSPRO) He is the originator of the HVAC process" (Many will argue that, unless Bruce is very, very old! Roger said HE "re" invented it 100 years too late!)
Fred: Here goes picky me again, but this time I'll try to be more civil. First, I think David Ripley was marketing an HVAC CS machine before Bruce. Second, I never claimed I invented anything. I believe, if you'll check the record, I said I rediscovered the "sputtered" form of the HVAC CS process "100 years too late." Small detail perhaps, but you'll find the devil hidden in many mistaken/omitted details. "There is constant reference to the 'yellow' or 'golden' color. As mentioned in the description of the DC process, this color is a result of the silver 'tarnishing'. " (The accepted opinion is the particle size determines the color - below he oddly says the tarnishing makes it "heavy" and causes very short life due to settlement?) "Colloidal silver produced by the HVAC process is pure, clean and clear...Particle size is between .002 to .007-9 micron, yielding 100% 'Bio-Availability' "(Most of us are concerned about what contaminates in HVAC Cs cause the very low pH , so "pure" or "clean" is still questionable!) "The flow of the current from the positive (anode) to the negative (cathode) causes minute particles of silver to release. Many particles will immediately oxidize and adhere to the negative electrode as a black residue (silver oxides)," (The general opinion is they are atoms (reduced ions) and form weak, irregular crystal growths and thus the dark color.) "Low voltage DC colloidal silver has a limited 'shelf life'. Due to the continuing oxidation of the suspended particles, the solution will turn to a yellow or golden color. During production, the particles are given a positive electrical charge. This keeps them in suspension by the principle of 'Brownian Motion'. The charge dissipates slowly. The increased weight caused by the build-up of oxidation, causes the particles to collide and, finally, with their charges weakening, settle to the bottom of the container. " His recently updated main site says LVDC Cs has a shelf life of only 2 days to 2 weeks! (Most of this sounds really hoaky and many of us have stable samples of LVDC Cs well over a year old, to prove it!) Fred: I was wondering of the people who produce LVDC CS, what percentage of the time do they see a degradation (deeper color, black silver powder dropping out, etc.) of their product over time? Perhaps, Fred, you'd like to carry the ball on this one by repeating this question every time you post something. Respectfully, Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
