Hi Fred, If you want to question Bruce about anything specific, why don't you write to him yourself?
Although he is quite busy, he will respond to mail. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -----Original Message----- From: Fred [SMTP:f...@health2us.com] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 10:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Bruce Marx Web Site C/S or BS << File: ATT00005.htm >> Alvin said: "Did anyone visit Bruce Marx's web site at http://colloidal.hypermart.net another great claim of superior C/S and why we shouldn't use the LVDC process...Is it BS or not?" ------------------------------------------------------ Well, I had not visited his site for years so I decided to review it for you Alvin - below are some questionable statements of his: (This is not a personal attack, text is taken in context from his widely published comparison of the LV and HVAC processes. My comments are in blue!) "Bruce Marx is an N.D., a licensed Chief Engineer (CSPRO) He is the originator of the HVAC process" (Many will argue that, unless Bruce is very, very old! Roger said HE "re" invented it 100 years too late!) "There is constant reference to the 'yellow' or 'golden' color. As mentioned in the description of the DC process, this color is a result of the silver 'tarnishing'. " (The accepted opinion is the particle size determines the color - below he oddly says the tarnishing makes it "heavy" and causes very short life due to settlement?) "Colloidal silver produced by the HVAC process is pure, clean and clear...Particle size is between .002 to .007-9 micron, yielding 100% 'Bio-Availability' "(Most of us are concerned about what contaminates in HVAC Cs cause the very low pH , so "pure" or "clean" is still questionable!) "The flow of the current from the positive (anode) to the negative (cathode) causes minute particles of silver to release. Many particles will immediately oxidize and adhere to the negative electrode as a black residue (silver oxides)," (The general opinion is they are atoms (reduced ions) and form weak, irregular crystal growths and thus the dark color.) "Low voltage DC colloidal silver has a limited 'shelf life'. Due to the continuing oxidation of the suspended particles, the solution will turn to a yellow or golden color. During production, the particles are given a positive electrical charge. This keeps them in suspension by the principle of 'Brownian Motion'. The charge dissipates slowly. The increased weight caused by the build-up of oxidation, causes the particles to collide and, finally, with their charges weakening, settle to the bottom of the container. " His recently updated main site says LVDC Cs has a shelf life of only 2 days to 2 weeks! (Most of this sounds really hoaky and many of us have stable samples of LVDC Cs well over a year old, to prove it!) "Generally, the higher the operating voltage of the process, the more 'consistently small' the particles produced. Therefore, as the voltage goes up, so does the percent of 'Bio-Availability'. At 180 volts DC, the 'Bio-Availability' is over 80%, and at 10,000 volts AC, the 'Bio-Availability' is 100%." (he claims only 30% Bio with 27 VDC - in my book, ions or atoms of silver come in only one size and only a poor process will allow crystal growth or larger particles. His photo claiming particles of 0.001 to 0.008 um is of a 6-10um cluster or particle, so which is he flawing?) Also, his general approach (marketing) is a scare tactic - "the FDA will shut us all down" - "you need to be prepared in your shelter with 600 Watt backup generators to run his unit" - etc. rather then the classic promotion of "----- has many benefits for you"! As some would say, "Where is the proof?", there are no links or references cited to support any of his "views". In fairness, I must say his "technical data" (on both sites I viewed) is a news article he had published on 2/30/96, but on the other hand, the web pages were updated recently so I must assume these "weird science" views are still his! I would rate him pretty low Alvin! (Slap me if you disagree!) P.S. If you find any hoaky/outdated stuff on my site, let me know and I will change/update it! We all learn as we grow, but Bruce has been painted as "the" originator and thus "the expert"! A few on the list will defend him at any cost - such is dedication! He certainly appears to make more money then us all, so maybe like Bill Gates he can say anything we wants to! f...@health2us.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
