At 09:00 PM 6/19/2000, you wrote:
<< Alvin said:
"Did anyone visit Bruce Marx's web site at
http://colloidal.hypermart.net
another great claim of superior C/S and why we shouldn't
use the LVDC process...Is it BS or not?"
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Well, I had not visited his site for years so I decided to review it
for you Alvin - below are some questionable statements of his:
(This is not a personal attack, text is taken in context from his
widely published comparison of the LV and HVAC processes.
My comments are in blue!)
"Bruce Marx is an N.D., a licensed Chief Engineer (CSPRO)
He is the originator of the HVAC process"
(Many will argue that, unless Bruce is very, very old! Roger
said HE "re" invented it 100 years too late!)
Fred: Here goes picky me again, but this time I'll try to be more civil.
First, I think David Ripley was marketing an HVAC CS machine before Bruce.
Second, I never claimed I invented anything. I believe, if you'll check the
record, I said I rediscovered the "sputtered" form of the HVAC CS process
"100 years too late." Small detail perhaps, but you'll find the devil hidden
in many mistaken/omitted details.
Look again Roger, I said above: "Roger said HE "re" invented it 100 years
too late"
You have to give me some latitude in words Roger, I have digital data overload
problems from working two computers 10 hours a day 7 days a week with my
many web businesses and ecommerce site designs (doing 50 now) and can
barely remember what I said a few days ago, let alone what you said! Only my
Eudora spell checker makes any of it readable.
"Fred: I was wondering of the people who produce LVDC CS, what percentage of
the time do they see a degradation (deeper color, black silver powder
dropping out, etc.) of their product over time? Perhaps, Fred, you'd like to
carry the ball on this one by repeating this question every time you post
something.
Respectfully, Roger"
Thanks for the "Respectfully", but I am annoying enough already to some,
to want to keep repeating myself! I can give you a general answer from
both the questions posted and my experience!
The simpler setups with no circulation and normal electrode spacing
will have the problem, as a dense ion cloud forms and promotes
nucleation/crystallization and there are generally conductive "stringers"
that form to the bottom and or negative electrode. It is more often
referred to as slimy stings and never as a powder, unless disturbed
(shaken) violently. The fall out may be immediate and prolonged, as
the many nucleation sites allow continued degradation. Very operator
and process dependent (and phase of the moon). Those that use
batteries often report crystal clear product, when the batteries are dead!
(Really, I heard it reported a few times - one kind soul even offered to
provide a "time to replace battery" email service.)
The some what popular "reversing polarity" process prevents the
stringers and tends to blow the reduced ions off the negative electrode
and they will in time settle as a dark powder. Looks a lot better tho'
and could be a better product if done right. I expect it is closer to a HV
setup - more atoms then ions - but can not count them!
The better approach of very light circulation prevents crystal growth and
or stringers but there are often a few "curls" of reduced ion growth that
will fall from the negative and settle immediately to the bottom. We just
decant, to avoid it. Those that like power and use excessive circulation
will produce results the same as polarity reversals, ripping reduced
ions free.
The problems are much worse (and more often posted) with small area
electrodes (wire) vs. wide strips or bars. A critical element, ignored by
most, is the need to keep the current density low - stringers of course
totally defeat that goal and crystal growth accelerates with higher current
density. That is another of the "defects" I see in the HV process - a high
probability of kicking few ions off, mostly discrete particles!
f...@health2us.com
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