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From: "Marshall Dudley" <mdud...@execonn.com>

> Ivan Anderson wrote:
>
> > Silver is oxidised at a couple of Volts. What do you think happens
at
> > the anode of a CS generator. The silver electrode is oxidised into
> > silver ions which then enter the solution. Depending on the method
of
> > manufacture some metallic silver, that is unoxidised, uncharged
silver
> > particles, are included in the colloid.
> >
>
> Not true in HVAC systems since it gets reduced back to silver
immediately on
> the next half cycle.  In LVDC silver oxide is produced, but is almost
> insoluable, and thus precipitates out on the electrode.  If it is a
colloid
> then it is silver metallic particles, if it is silver oxide, then it
is a
> black power that forms on the electrode or drops to the bottom.

Therefore your HVAC CS has no conductivity other than the conductivity
of the water you start with. I thought you used a flow through
unit...unless there is no movement in the water other than the
oscillations of the silver ions these ions could not be reduced back at
the next cycle as they will be too far away to contact the electrode.

A colloid is a description of a physical system, it does not say
anything about the nature of its constituents, other than one is
dispersed in the other, and the dispersed constituent is of the order
1nm to 100micron in one plane.

There is no silver oxide in LVDC CS unless the water is acidic, but even
if there were, silver oxide beyond the level of solubility (13ppm) can
exist quite happily as a colloid, if it meets the requirements mentioned
above. Silver oxide is perfectly safe and I would be quite happy if my
LVDC CS existed in some part as silver oxide, although I doubt that it
does. Silver oxide will not increase the conductivity of the water
either.

> Silver oxide only has a solubility of .13 ppm in cold water, thus if
you
> have any ppm of silver greater than that, it cannot be silver oxide.
> Dissolved silver oxide has not tyndall.

Well, it can be all silver oxide, but it will not be very
stable...similar to silver chloride.

> >
> > In order to enter the blood via the digestive tract the silver must
be
> > in the ionic form, in order to become attached to the protein or
amino
> > acid transporters so that they may pass the through the channels in
the
> > cells. If you know different do tell.
>
> I am pretty sure this is untrue, but will have to research it for
> references.  Many colloids are easily absorbed into the blood stream
> provided the particles are small enought, less than 15 nm from what I
have
> read.  Some elements require channels, but many do not.

I have said the above many times, and till now nobody has answered the
challenge. Please, no statements from colloidal mineral manufacturers.

> CS is much more effective than silver compounds, so if what you are
saying
> is true, how do you explain the difference?

Who says colloidal silver is more effective than silver compounds? What
steps were taken to ensure that the compound exists in the same state as
it would be found in the body? It is not good enough to drop some silver
chloride into a petri dish and proclaim that the CS is more effective.
However, if you know of some comparison between silver nitrate and CS,
with the same silver content, I would be interested, as silver nitrate
dissasociates into its component ions in solution.

> How would it become ionic form in the stomach?  CS is untouched by
> hydrochloric acid at body tempertures.

It depends on what you mean by CS. Clusters of ions will break apart in
an acidic environment pH2. Metallic particles will to some extent also.
Silver compounds will break apart into component ions. Some chelates
will not, but then they are in a form which can be absorbed by the body
anyway. Even silver metal placed upon the skin will dissolve into silver
ions given a fluid medium!


> Marshall
Ivan.


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