Forgive me if I am being presumptious Frank, but exactly how many people are making pure particle silver solutions? I'm aware of two people. I've always been incredibly interested in particle silver research. However, I've seen no reports of efficacy, and the science I've seen ( that I've been able to understand, not being a specialist in chemistry ) has been sloppy.
For example, the "scientific experiment" where ionic silver is added to saliva and silver chloride is produces disproving protein adsorption of ionic silver is borderline negligance. I think you are being extremely unfair in stating that those using ionic silver ignore the silver chloride issue. The archives prove differently. I will remind you yet again that ionic silver products HAVE received FDA approval, and there are a few companies spending an incredible amount of money learning how to deliver ionic silver successfully into the body. These same companies could far spend less money learning how to deliver particle silver into the body, yet the predominant viewpoint among silver professionals is that ionic silver is ideal if there is a guarantee that the ionic silver will reach the site of an infection. I think that by taking the stance in the manner that you do, you not only misrepresent the scientific ideals you apparently hold so highly, but also do science itself an injustice. Personally, I use a high particle concentration for external applications because silver is silver, and higher concentrations externally have proven to me ) to be more effective with no added risk. However, I'm working on a simple method that will allow ionic silver to remain ionic for extended periods of time. In cases where this method is feasible, I will then opt for a "more" ionic silver solution. The majority of the work I've seen is a futile attempt to prove that ionic silver does not work, and that particle silver is theoretically the better alternative. I've seen very little on the practical application of a pure particle silver solution in the human body and what it can or cannot do. The only thing that has stopped me from doing some clinical research on the real efficacy of ionic silver is the fact that I don't have the equipment to control ionic silver production to standards, nor do I have the funds to purchase the colloidal silver at this time for use in such an endevour. I would ask you to realize that your words have the potential to bring harm to those people new to silver. Having an extraordinary amount of respect for scientific professionals, had I met you and heard your words about ionic silver, my wife very well could be dead as the result. Fortunately, I "met" Lindeman instead. Scientific ethics were developed to preserve the value of science itself. While it is true that every person must accept personal responsibility for their choices, is it really your intention to bring possible harm to others based on what is clearly some vendetta? I have never seen a post where you describe how your colloidal silver has actually worked against any condition. Yet you criticize those who report and are working to achieve a greater understanding through practical application. I think your theoretical base for the efficacy of particle silver is excellent, and I always have. Why not simply take your particle silver solution, put it to WORK, and let the results speak for themselves? Why not focus on the IS of your own work? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Key" <fr...@strsoft.com> To: "*Silver-List*" <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: Re: CS>Where to find 50 ppm...... > Ivan wrote: > > > > I think most of us have reached the conclusion that colloidal > > > silver is more effective than ionic silver for killing pathogens. > > > > I think not Marshall. Surely most think that ionic silver is more effective > > in killing pathogens, or at least don't know which is more effective. > > > > Just who is the us you refer to... the same 'many' that Frank referred to a > > while ago? > > > > Ivan. > > It would seem that those producing silver solutions (all ionic silver) are the ones most inclined to: > > 1. claim ionic silver is more effective in killing pathogens. > 2. claim silver solutions are really colloids > 3. ignore that chloride combines with silver ions to form silver chloride. > > Maybe what is needed is a list devoted to silver solutions and producers thereof. > > frank key > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > >
