The 500ppm stuff that Ole Bob tested, and sent on for further testing is the stuff peddled by HHA....are these the same products others are asking you about? Just curious... Connie
> From: "Trem" <t...@silvergen.com> > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:02:56 -0800 > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Subject: Re: CS>Re: 100-500 PPM CS and how it's made > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com > Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:41:39 -0800 > > Hi Reid and List members, > > The reason I asked the original question is that I have had several people > ask me about CS touted as being 500 PPM and they wanted to know what I > thought about it. In all cases I was told it was very deep yellow to brown > colored. Since I don't have a clue as to how it's made, I'm hesitant to say > anything about it except that it must be really agglomerated to be that > color and that it probably doesn't contain many ions. Could be way off in > my reasoning so that's why the question. Does anyone know the process used > to make the 500 PPM stuff. I call it stuff because I'm not sure what it is. > And I'm not asking for the process in order to try making it. That's not a > consideration. I wouldn't ingest it...would rather stick with low PPM clear > CS. > > Trem > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reid Harvey" <ceram...@bol-online.com> > To: "silver list" <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:29 PM > Subject: CS>Re: 100-500 PPM CS and how it's made > > >> Hi Trem, >> I'm curious why you say that electrolysis can't make CS as strong as 100 >> to 500ppm, unless perhaps you are speaking of the more conventional >> methodologies. I make CS that is ~170ppm, using a generator I acquired >> from Educate-Yourself.org, and though I have not had this tested I feel >> the ppm is the amount advertised. I'm told this generator will make CS >> upto about 1100ppm or more, simply requiring additional time. >> >> The container used is a 2 liter Erlenmeyer flask, operated in a double >> boiler, which I monitor to see that the boiling point is never >> exceeded. It's necessary to keep the temperature somewhat under 212oF, >> between about 200 and 208, so there's a thermometer inserted in the >> rubber cork at the top. I'm also told that the rate of ionic silver >> reaction is doubled for every additional 10oF. Also I use polarity >> switching, doing this every one minute, in order to prevent current >> runaway. Three or four hours at temperature and the CS goes from yellow >> to orange to deep amber, always tranparent, but at the end so dark that >> what one sees is a kind of gray, reflected color. But in diluting you >> get back to a clear yellow. >> >> I have variously seen here that a number of CS enthusiasts insist the >> ions will agglomerate and precipitate if something like 50ppm is >> exceeded, but I am guessing that this is not what happens. I believe >> there is actually a current runaway, or perhaps precipitation due to an >> electromagnetic field. It seems that as ppm increases there is more and >> more likelihood of instability, for various reasons. The folks who made >> my generator advise the concentrated CS is best kept in a Farraday cage >> in order to prevent instability due to electromagnetic fields. Of >> course, the producers of the Mexican CS, Microdyn, solve the same >> problem by using the protein stabilizer. >> >> I hope this information is helpful. >> Reid >> >> Trem said: >> Hi List, >> >> There's a question that's been nagging me for several years and I hope >> someone can help me figure it out. When I see 100 to 500 PPM CS I >> always >> wonder what process was used to make it. >> >> Since I know that electrolysis can't make it that strong it seems to me >> it >> has been made through chemical means. If it is made chemically and >> protein >> binders such as gelatin are used to stabilize it, what is the process? >> Is >> the silver dissolved in an acid and then a precipitant added to form >> particles or is there some other method? >> >> And if it is done using an acid can anyone tell me the process? >> >> The stuff is always deep brown in color which makes me think it's no >> good >> because of agglomeration, but it might actually have that much silver in >> it. >> I know Ole Bob has tested some of it and as I recall he found most of >> them >> were not at the PPM touted but it seems he did find some that were in >> the >> hundreds of PPM. Bob, are you there? Can you shed any light for me? >> >> Can anyone? >> >> Trem >> >> >> >> -- >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >> >> >> > >
