Hi Connie,

Yep, that's one of them.   Most of the inquiries are about unidentified
brands.

Trem

----- Original Message -----
From: "Connie" <wufn...@stargate.net>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: 100-500 PPM CS and how it's made


> The 500ppm stuff that Ole Bob tested, and sent on for further testing is
the
> stuff peddled by HHA....are these the same products others are asking you
> about?
> Just curious...
> Connie
>
>
> > From: "Trem" <t...@silvergen.com>
> > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:02:56 -0800
> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > Subject: Re: CS>Re: 100-500 PPM CS and how it's made
> > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:41:39 -0800
> >
> > Hi Reid and List members,
> >
> > The reason I asked the original question is that I have had several
people
> > ask me about CS touted as being 500 PPM and they wanted to know what I
> > thought about it.  In all cases I was told it was very deep yellow to
brown
> > colored.  Since I don't have a clue as to how it's made, I'm hesitant to
say
> > anything about it except that it must be really agglomerated to be that
> > color and that it probably doesn't contain many ions.  Could be way off
in
> > my reasoning so that's why the question.  Does anyone know the process
used
> > to make the 500 PPM stuff.  I call it stuff because I'm not sure what it
is.
> > And I'm not asking for the process in order to try making it.  That's
not a
> > consideration.  I wouldn't ingest it...would rather stick with low PPM
clear
> > CS.
> >
> > Trem
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Reid Harvey" <ceram...@bol-online.com>
> > To: "silver list" <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:29 PM
> > Subject: CS>Re: 100-500 PPM CS and how it's made
> >
> >
> >> Hi Trem,
> >> I'm curious why you say that electrolysis can't make CS as strong as
100
> >> to 500ppm, unless perhaps you are speaking of the more conventional
> >> methodologies.  I make CS that is ~170ppm, using a generator I acquired
> >> from Educate-Yourself.org, and though I have not had this tested I feel
> >> the ppm is the amount advertised.  I'm told this generator will make CS
> >> upto about 1100ppm or more, simply requiring additional time.
> >>
> >> The container used is a 2 liter Erlenmeyer flask, operated in a double
> >> boiler, which I monitor to see that the boiling point is never
> >> exceeded.  It's necessary to keep the temperature somewhat under 212oF,
> >> between about 200 and 208, so there's a thermometer inserted in the
> >> rubber cork at the top.  I'm also told that the rate of ionic silver
> >> reaction is doubled for every additional 10oF.  Also I use polarity
> >> switching, doing this every one minute, in order to prevent current
> >> runaway.  Three or four hours at temperature and the CS goes from
yellow
> >> to orange to deep amber, always tranparent, but at the end so dark that
> >> what one sees is a kind of gray, reflected color.  But in diluting you
> >> get back to a clear yellow.
> >>
> >> I have variously seen here that a number of CS enthusiasts insist the
> >> ions will agglomerate and precipitate if something like 50ppm is
> >> exceeded, but I am guessing that this is not what happens.  I believe
> >> there is actually a current runaway, or perhaps precipitation due to an
> >> electromagnetic field.  It seems that as ppm increases there is more
and
> >> more likelihood of instability, for various reasons.  The folks who
made
> >> my generator advise the concentrated CS is best kept in a Farraday cage
> >> in order to prevent instability due to electromagnetic fields.  Of
> >> course, the producers of the Mexican CS, Microdyn, solve the same
> >> problem by using the protein stabilizer.
> >>
> >> I hope this information is helpful.
> >> Reid
> >>
> >> Trem said:
> >> Hi List,
> >>
> >> There's a question that's been nagging me for several years and I hope
> >> someone can help me figure it out.  When I see 100 to 500 PPM CS I
> >> always
> >> wonder what process was used to make it.
> >>
> >> Since I know that electrolysis can't make it that strong it seems to me
> >> it
> >> has been made through chemical means.  If it is made chemically and
> >> protein
> >> binders such as gelatin are used to stabilize it, what is the process?
> >> Is
> >> the silver dissolved in an acid and then a precipitant added to form
> >> particles or is there some other method?
> >>
> >> And if it is done using an acid can anyone tell me the process?
> >>
> >> The stuff is always deep brown in color which makes me think it's no
> >> good
> >> because of agglomeration, but it might actually have that much silver
in
> >> it.
> >> I know Ole Bob has tested some of it and as I recall he found most of
> >> them
> >> were not at the PPM touted but it seems he did find some that were in
> >> the
> >> hundreds of PPM.  Bob, are you there?  Can you shed any light for me?
> >>
> >> Can anyone?
> >>
> >> Trem
> >>
> >>
> >>
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