On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 10:58:43AM -0500, gts wrote:

> Do believe in what people sometimes call 'the force of logic', Jef? Do you  

I'm not Jef, but I have no idea what 'the force of logic' is supposed
to mean. Can you define it, preferrably using a formal production system,
so I everyone in the possession of it can verify what has the 'forceful' 
nature, and what doesn't?

(And I'm perhaps not the only one wondering what this thread has to
do with AI, or the Singularity).

> believe every rational mind is as a matter of definition compelled to  
> accept the conclusions of sound arguments?

As to constructiveness, circular definitions are not so hot. I would
also like to see a measurement procedure which can tell sound arguments
apart from the other (silent?) kind. And just how do you do the compelling
thing? Do you use corporeal punishment, or do you settle for posthypnotic
suggestion?
 
> I do. If you do too then we have no disagreement.
> 
> If you disagree then I must think it odd that you try so often to persuade  
> me that your arguments are true.

I must admit I frequently find trouble to find arguments in your text
stream.

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