--- Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Perhaps you've been through this - but I'd like to > know people's ideas about > > what exact physical form a Singulitarian or > near-Singul. AGI will take. And > > I'd like to know people's automatic associations > even if they don't have > > thought-through ideas - just what does a superAGI > conjure up in your mind, > > regardless of whether you're sure about it or not, > or it's sensible? > > It is fun to speculate, but I think that you could > not observe a Singularity.
You certainly could observe it if it happened right in front of you. If it happened already and we're living in a simulation, who knows? > Or if your intellect advanced to the point where you > could, you would not be > able to describe what you observed to other humans. > To use an analogy, a > Singularity level intelligence would be as advanced > over humans as humans are > over bacteria. The bacteria in your stomach are > unaware of your existence. No, but they would notice if you spontaneously appeared/disappeared. It would greatly affect their environment. > I believe a Singularity has already happened. Do you have any evidence for this point of view? > The > world you now observe is > the result. Your thoughts are constrained both by > the computational limits of > your brain (belief in consciousness, belief in free > will, fear of death) What do those things have to do with computational limits? > , and > by the model of reality presented to its inputs. > For all we know, concepts > like space, time, and matter are nothing more than > abstract mathematical > models in your simulated universe, which bear no > resemblance to the universe > in which the simulation is being run. This will all > be clear after you die > and wake up. So, after we wake up, can we try whatever beings set up this simulation for being complicit in every crime ever committed? > > -- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- > This list is sponsored by AGIRI: > http://www.agiri.org/email > To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: > http://v2.listbox.com/member/?&; > - Tom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=7d7fb4d8
