On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 12:52:18PM -0500, Papiewski, John wrote: > What I meant was, the only method a sane, informed, non-suicidal person > would want to sign up for of their own free will.
I like to think that most cryonicists are sane, informed, and non-suicidal when they sign their contracts. (Especially, about the sane and informed parts). > Of course there are several physical methods that might upload your > personality, indistinguishable from you, but would kill YOU. So there's How is that different from the control; as in: you die, either from old age, disease, or accident. We're not talking hypotheticals here when we're discussing whole-body/brain/environment emulation. Right now your only entry ticket to play that game is a successful suspension. You don't get that, you're dumping your information into the big entropy sink into the sky, and submit your atoms to be recycled by the biosphere. Whee. > no benefit to you, though nobody else would notice if they didn't know > any different. Let me guess, you don't subscribe to the pattern identity view? > You could also do a Hans Moravec type upload where your mind is > gradually uploaded to some sort of box, then your body's disconnected > and you watch it convulse and die. Bleagh!! Why put yourself thru > trauma if it's not necessary? Your threshold for trauma seems really low. I can stand serious amount of trauma (but why on earth, if it's completely optional?) if this buys me the entry ticket to move on to bigger and better things. > There may be other ways to do a benign upload, preserving the > individual, but I don't know of any offhand. Parse error. Doesn't compute. > And of course our bodies do this naturally anyway... we gradually slough > off cells in favor of replacement cells all the time... just not all at Some parts of your CNS have a turnaround time of about 24 hours. > the same time. I think you're having some severe consistency issues in your argumentation there. I can't tell whether this is identity being a boolean, or substratism (a belief that one specific medium is magickal and sacred). -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=7d7fb4d8
