On Jan 26, 2008 8:50 AM, Mike Tintner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Correct me  - my impression of discussions here is that this group seems to
> be focussed exclusively on the future development of a superAGI - and that
> is always considered to be a *computer*.
>
> However, there is still no sign of that ever happening

http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~fringwal/stoopid.lis

> - of a disembodied
> computer

A computer is not "disembodied" any more than you are. Silicon, as a
substrate, is fully equivalent to biological neurons in terms of
theoretical problem-solving ability.

> achieving true intelligence - (or even how such a thing, were it
> possible, could avoid being simply switched off).

http://www.singinst.org/blog/2007/07/10/the-power-of-intelligence/

> What however now seems extremely probable  is that Artificial Life will
> happen. Today the first artificial genome was announced:
>
> http://www.jcvi.org/cms/research/projects/synthetic-bacterial-genome/press-release/
>
> (any significance in the choice of Mycoplasma genitalium?)
>
> Awed hush, please. Soon there will be an artificial cell.

http://www.singinst.org/upload/mindisall-tv07.pdf

> It also seems highly probable now with Darpa that we will have robots freely
> roaming the earth eventually - however long it may take.
>
> (These are the areas where all the serious money is going).

DARPA's budget for ARPANet in 1970 was $1 million, out of $1 billion
or so. All the 'serious money' was probably going to eight-track tapes
 and abandoned mainframe computers.

> Why does discussion never (unless I've missed something - in which case
> apologies) focus on the more realistic future "threats"/possibilities -
> future artificial species as opposed to future computer simulations?

Because millions of people already think about short-term threats, and
very few think about long-term threats. If nobody thinks about
long-term threats, one of them is eventually going to kill us.

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