On Jan 26, 2008, at 6:07 PM, Mike Tintner wrote:
Tom:A computer is not "disembodied" any more than you are. Silicon,
as a
substrate, is fully equivalent to biological neurons in terms of
theoretical problem-solving ability.
You've been fooled by the puppet. It doesn't work without the
puppeteer.
What's that, elan vitale, a "soul", a "consciousness" that is
independent of the puppet? Well, I don't disbelieve it is
possible. After all an sufficiently advanced AGI with uploads or
personality fragments could create "puppets" and run them if it wanted
to. But I have zero evidence this is in fact the case here. Do you?
And contrary to Eliezer:
"A transhuman is a transhuman mind; anything else is a side issue."
the evidence of billions of years of evolution says that the mind
doesn't work without the body. No body, no mind. No physics, no
psychology, no AI. If it can't move, it can't think. (And I think,
thanks in part to mirrror neurons, that we are now on the verge of
finally pinning down why. But that's another post).
So you don't believe in a puppeteer after all? No substrate, no
computer, eh? What is movement? Change within a domain over time?
Mirror neurons don't seem to make a case for you seem to be
intimating. But it isn't quite clear to me what you mean to say.
Please explain.
- samantha
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