On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:55:23 -0500, Tony Graziano wrote:
> Flow route offers two connection methods. There is no user name/password
> authentication on outbound calls if you use a static IP/port with them
> instead.

I know that, it wasn't my question. My question was only about authentication 
or lack of really since it would be IP based.

> Anything else you are asking is probably a misunderstanding of how they
> describe an IP based acl. Hence joegens confusion. 

The only misunderstanding was your own about my using the term VPRI. I'm pretty 
sure I could post VPRI just about anywhere and folks would know I mean virtual 
pri. Or maybe I should have added a dash.

That aside, the question was about sipx and how it works with SIP PRI's in 
terms of a username/password setting in the Gateway section. 

Because I would leave it blank, would there be any potential problems or issues 
which I would need to take care of in order to ensure everything works as it 
should. These things are templates and they aren't all the same. I want to make 
sure I'm not overlooking something that could become a hard to find problem 
once installed.

In addition, I wondered if there might be any issues with using SIP PRI's in 
terms of simultaneous channels since the GUI settings aren't the same as a 
traditional gateway. For all I know, leaving the username/password blank might 
cause some weird problem I don't know about. Nothing wrong with asking in case 
someone has already been through it.

>As such, this really won't get you closer to having it work, because it 
>already does.

Again, easier to ask folks in a list than to suffer problems unknown down the 
line. So yeah, it does get me closer to what I need to find out about. Just sad 
it's always with all the freaking nonsense as well. 

Mike





> On Dec 30, 2011 11:50 AM, "m...@grounded.net" <m...@grounded.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 11:34:58 -0500, Tony Graziano wrote:
>> using ip based acl (this is not authentication as registration is), was
>> answered in the first reply.i have a flowroute connection also and this is
>> how i configured it and i expressed how it works. I don't understand the
>> need to beat this discussion as it was answered exactly how to configure
>> it
>> and use it.
>>
> I believe the beating part had little to do with my question and mostly
> about my use of the VPRI term and then the discussion which that in turn
> created.
>
>> I have only seen one provider require IP based ACL and normal
>> authentication to place calls, Level3. They are unique and sipx wont do
>> what they want without a carefully designed sbc connection. Flowroute just
>> gives you a choice of registration or ip based acl. ... use the
>> bandwidth.com template and be done with it.
>>
> I described in more detail to Joegen what it is I am trying to find out
> about.
>
>> i still think of a vpri as a hardware based solution to share a
>> (hardware/circuit based) PRI. A PRI is a PRI. A sip trunk is not a PRI...
>>
> And I think a washroom is a washroom and some argue that it's a bathroom.
> Go figure.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>> happy 2012
>>
>>
>> kill this thread please?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:18 AM, m...@grounded.net <m...@grounded.net>
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 21:59:38 +0800, Joegen Baclor wrote:
>>> I won't touch the subject of VPRI because it is not relevant to the
>>> actual issue.
>>>
>>
>>> I simply meant a virtual pri which is a term I saw somewhere and figured
>>> it's pretty self explanatory anyhow.
>> I'll explain it in case someone comes across this thread.
>>
>> The term "Virtual PRI" is just marketing but obviously, it is becoming
>> very
>> well known with voip providers.
>> It is more or less just a billing method for a pool of channels which
>> multiple DID's can be used over. Basically the SIP version of a physical
>> PRI.
>> Say you need 8 simultaneous calls, you order a virtual PRI with 8
>> channels.
>> That will allow you to have 8 active calls.
>> It is SIP based which means it doesn't have the usual PRI signaling or a
>> physical copper circuit requirement.
>>
>>> either authenticated via user name or password or via an ACL which we
>>> here call IP Auth.  What receives them on the other end can have any
>>>
>>
>>> Usually, when using an ITSP, we just set up a gateway on Sipx which
>>> allows for name/password for authentication.
>>>
>> However, when I spoke to a flowroute support tech, he told me that if I
>> used a virtual pri, that I should allow the pbx to authenticate via IP
>> rather than user name and password. He said this would prevent each server
>> from having to authenticate multiple times and that it would be a bit
>> better on their side.
>>
>>> On the flowroute gui, there is an 'inbound routes' section which allows
>>> one to define routing and authentication for each DID.
>>>
>> So my question is about sipx and how I can make use of the virtual PRI. If
>> I don't use the name/password authentication section in the Gateway
>> fields,
>>
>> What I don't know is if Sipx might have any configuration requirements in
>> order to use the multiple channels.
>>
>> In the Gateway/Details/ITSP Account section, there is a Username and
>> Password section. If I leave these blank and flowroute is set to use
>> IP/Auth, will sipx see this gateway as a multi channel one (like my
>> audiocodes MK2 for example) or is there something else I need to set up.
>>
>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2011 06:10 AM, m...@grounded.net wrote:
>>>> I need to install 4 separate sipx systems in four separate locations.
>>>> No
>>>> interoffice communications.
>>>> All of the sipx systems could benefit from the use of a VPRI rather
>>>> than
>>>> traditional.
>>>>
>>>> I use ITSP's for individual lines when we need an area code that our
>>>> local telco cannot handle.
>>>> On sipx, I usually just  create an ITSP device in the gateway section
>>>> and
>>>> let it authenticate via user name/password.
>>>>
>>>> In this case, due to the number of lines per server (4 to 8), it
>>>> doesn't
>>>> seem like a good idea to authenticate each and every DID individually
>>>> for
>>>> example and would prefer using an IP based authentication for the
>>>> whole
>>>> server.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be using flowroute for the systems but am not sure how to
>>>> configure
>>>> sipx to authenticate once based on IP over a user name/password. I
>>>> don't
>>>> see anything which would allow me to do this in the Gateway
>>>> configuration
>>>> section.
>>>>
>>>> Can someone shed some light on this please.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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