On Fri, 09 Jun 2000, Jon Biddell wrote:
>>Are you saying that someone who is prepared to steal trade-secrets from your
>>company would not use someone else's email account because of a signed
>>agreement?
>
>No, I'm saying that most of our users are either too honest, or to stupid
>to try this...:-=)
That is a reasonable point. There is a correlation between honesty and
intelligence. Many insecure systems stay alive because the people who are
smart enough to break them don't want to, and the people who want to break
them aren't smart enough.
>> >As I said, we are fairly relaxed about it and, as you said, providing it
>> >doesn't waste too much time, tend to turn a blind eye. The exception is any
>> >kind of pornographic site - the agreement clearly states that viewing these
>> >sites is grounds for instant dismissal - if you think the condition is
>> >unfair (and, to be honest, some do), then don't sign the agreement and we
>> >will not give you access to the internet.
>>
>>I don't view porn at work because it's unprofessional.
>>
>>People in Australia and the UK get too up-tight and puritanical about these
>>things. I think that spending some time in Amsterdam would be good for them.
>
>I agree with the "unprofessionalism" comment wholeheartedly. But just
>because you may or may not like to view porn at some time doesn't mean that
>those of us who do not are puritanical or up-tight. Maybe we just don't
>need it...
>
>>The attitude of "I really want to do this but I'd feel guilty if I did so
>>I'll try and stop everyone else from doing it to try and help convince myself
>>that it's bad" is very unproductive. There are a number of bad results of
>>this, one of which is that when such people arrive somewhere like Amsterdam
>>they sometimes go crazy and start excessively doing things that they were
>>previously prohibited (both by law and their own inhibitions) from doing.
>
>Or by morals, decency and respect...:-)
morals == puritanism IMHO.
As for decency and respect, as long as the people viewing such sites don't do
it during business hours, don't do anything bad (like taking their clothes
off while viewing them), and don't view any bad porn (I will intentionally
refrain from describing what I mean by this) then there shouldn't be a
problem IMHO.
Russell Coker
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