SDSL is halfduplex, T1's are fullduplex.  Might want to look at that as
well.

----- Original Message -----
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> Recognize that s SDSL line does wehat we do, oversubscribe....  (So does
> a T-1 Internet port though), so make sure you understand what you are
> really buying...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:37:36 -0500
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
>
> > Message    Thats what I'm doing, Qwest wants $1200.00 for a T1 but I
> > found I
> > can get SDSL at $400.00 same speed as T1 and I can upgrade to the T1
> > later
> > with no penalty.
> >     Joe
> > RiverNet
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Haynes
> >   Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:47 AM
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
> >
> >
> >   This is just an idea that has been overlooked. If you can't make
> > money
> > with what the bandwidth costs you, find cheaper bandwidth. Don't reply
> > with
> > I have already tried. Some of you can not find it cheaper, I know. But,
> > consider partnerships with ISP that can not reach your coverage area
> > but can
> > supply your NOC. Get the Phone company to match a competitors price
> > even if
> > that competitor can not supply your NOC, you own a wireless network
> > that can
> > reach almost any supplier if needed. Get a little creative, no one ever
> > made
> > a good life for themselves, self employed, without it.
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hokenson
> >   Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 11:35 PM
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
> >
> >
> >   With those costs for bandwidth, it will be a challenge without some
> > severe
> > bandwidth management.
> >
> >   JH
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Pascal Losier
> >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 8:24 PM
> >     Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
> >
> >
> >     So how can I make some money,   I pay 1600$/month for a fractional
> > T1
> > 512k lease line, or 2950$/month for a full 1.5Mb lease line.
> >
> >     I charge 69,99$ for 5Gb/month .............. I thinks it is
> > impossible
> > for me to make some money.
> >
> >     Just to mention, It's canadian money,          1$ US = 1.50$ Can.
> >
> >
> >
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patti Jones
> >       Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 8:38 PM
> >       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >       Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
> >
> >
> >       So how much if any contract do they sign with you?  12 months. 24
> > none?
> >
> >       Patti
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >         From: Mark Koskenmaki
> >         To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 3:50 PM
> >         Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
> >
> >
> >         Here, at least, there are no other providers.   In other towns,
> > you
> > can get ADSL, but $30 is the same or less than anything else.  That
> > gets you
> > 265K / up to 256K ADSL (Quest's terminology, not mine), and I'll be
> > offering
> > 1.5 Mbit for that price.   No other provider can compete with that,
> > since
> > thier overhead (due to the cost of the dsl line) only a bit less than
> > that.
> > For me, I have little fixed cost, buy bandwidth at $1.50-2.00 a gig and
> > resell it at 3 to 5 times that plus the monthly service charge.
> >
> >         So, the model makes money.   I'm going to be in the black at
> > less
> > than 10 paying residential customers on the lowest tier.
> >
> >         But, since the area and customer base is limited, I never
> > expect to
> > get rich at it.   I have other ventures I'm pursuing to earn a living
> > :)
> >
> >         Mark
> >
> >
> >         NEOFAST.NET
> >         North
> >         East
> >         Oregon
> >         FAST
> >         Net
> >         mark(at)neofast.net
> >           ----- Original Message -----
> >           From: Colin Watson
> >           To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >           Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:27 PM
> >           Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
> >
> >
> >           I'm curious, do you find traffic limits (i.e. 1 gig/month)
> > actually make you competitive with the cable/adsl providers? Do people
> > tolerate that - especially  as extra gigs cost, on top of subscriptions
> > that
> > must be as expensive or more so then wired broadband equivilents?
> >             ----- Original Message -----
> >             From: Dennis Burgess
> >             To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >             Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 9:01 PM
> >             Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Could not regain association
> >
> >
> >             I agree, however, customers DO NOT like there bill going up
> > due
> > to transfers.  How about just saying, you hit your transfer level, and
> > then
> > drop there bandwitdth to 64k ..  When they call up to say that their
> > intenret is slow you get them to upgrade to the bigger package!
> >
> >             Dennis
> >
> >
> >
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