> The reason we decided to post a job offer in this list, is more than
evident.

You never said it was a job offer.




On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 6:29 PM, B&C Artist Pool <
softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com> wrote:

> As Mirko said.  We are all grown ups here.
>
> The reason we decided to post a job offer in this list, is more than
> evident.
>
> We appreciate your feedback in the way we are handling our talent search.
>
> You believe that we are not serious because we have a page with HTML
> tables, it's ok.
>
> You don't like the "Intrigue" and "Drama" as you say, It is ok.
>
> You believe it is a scam.  Ok no problem also.
>
> And as we are a studio, yes, we have a limited number of seats.
>
> We respect your feelings, and we also respect if you don't want to send a
> simple e-mail to find out more.
>
> But we are not changing our strategy.  As you can see, a lot is being
> filtered out already by itself.
>
> People that really want more information are sending the mail, and they
> are being attended properly.
>
> Our main 3D core is based on Softimage and that is why we decided to post
> to this mailing list in first place, a list which we respect.
>
> Here it goes again:
>
> *We are looking for freelance talented artists, or small studios (3-10),
> that are proficient and skilled in Softimage for our studio.
> *
> *
> *
> *If you are interested in who we are, and what we are offering, send an
> e-mail to artist.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com*
>
> And you can decide if you take the next step or not into our recruitment
> process.
>
> Again quoting Mirko.
>
> "We are all grown ups here".
>
> Thank you for your time,
>
> Sincerly
>
> *B&C VIP Studio*
> Artist Pool
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
> From: Sebastian Kowalski <l...@sekow.com>
> Date: Sun, September 22, 2013 1:08 pm
> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>
> what eric said is how I feel about that too.
> from my experience there is no such thing like a closed pool. in an
> industry living from fresh ideas, exclusivity is kinda unproductive.
> everybody is looking for talent..
>
> nevertheless, this is still a good place for job offers and I do wish you
> a successful start.
>
> -sebastian
>
>
> Am 22.09.2013 um 21:33 schrieb Christopher Crouzet <
> christopher.crou...@gmail.com>:
>
> With your lack of transparency, your elusive descriptions, you betting on
> people's curiosity, and your choice of catchy lines such as "VIP",
> "talents", and "seats are limited", it sounds like all you're trying to do
> is to catch the ones still hoping for the American dream. It's really just
> missing a blinking yellow "FREE!!!" tag on a red background, and you're
> done.
>
> Just saying that whatever your thing is, you've been doing very well at
> managing to make it sound not trustworthy in every possible way.
>
>
> PS: and it has been scientifically proved that websites using HTML
> <tables> for non-tabular data can't be serious.
>
>
> On 22 September 2013 21:02, B&C Artist Pool <
> softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello Eric.  Yes our site is just one week old as we are new!
>>
>> And yes, neither we have seen this before for 25 years.
>>
>> All we can say is that the kitchen has been cooking this for about two
>> years ago from now.  And it is time to start delivering the dishes.
>>
>> We can tell you what we are not.
>>
>> We are not a talent place site.
>> We do not charge artists any fee.
>> We are not a site that will ask you to enroll and pay a subscritpion, so
>> other studios can come up and see your profile.
>>
>> We are a new studio gathering talent all over the globe.
>>
>> Seats are limited.  Once we have our team completed, we will stop sending
>> invitations and we will announce it here.
>>
>> What pill will you take?
>>
>> The red pill, or the blue pill?
>>
>> Send the mail and discover what is behind that old corridor with light at
>> the end that is at our site.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> *B&C VIP Studio*
>> Artist Pool
>>
>>
>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
>> From: Eric Lampi <ericla...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, September 22, 2013 11:19 am
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>
>> Sorry, but to not personally introduce yourself is weird, especially on
>> this list. I don't think I have ever seen such a request in the 15 or so
>> years I have been on the list.
>> So I would like to ask you a couple questions:
>>
>> What is your name? Where are you currently based? Is your business model
>> to act as a placement/talent scout?
>>
>> Your website appears to be only about a week old. Also, on that website
>> there are no links. No reference to any credits, clients, work or contact
>> info. Sorry to be so cagey, but on a few occasions I have entertained a few
>> vague requests like yours in the past, thinking they were a legit studio
>> only to find out it was just someone who wants a list of artists to act as
>> a go-between of some kind between the artists and other studios.
>>
>> A little transparency would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
>>
>> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
>>
>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, <softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Sebastian,
>>>
>>> We are working hard to create something different, where a lot of effort
>>> and hard work has been put into, just to reach the step of start sending
>>> invitations.
>>>
>>> We cannot reveal the curtain so easy.
>>>
>>> We decided to post here first, knowing that this one would be a tough
>>> bone to chew.  Most of the artists here are experienced and very high
>>> skilled.
>>>
>>> And we are not asking for weird or strange stuff at this moment.  All we
>>> are saying is to send an e-mail to an address if you are interested.
>>>
>>> We can't see how this will harm you in anyway.
>>>
>>> So if you are curious, the least you can do is send an e-mail and see
>>> what happens next.
>>>
>>> What we can assure you, is that we are not going to ask you to give away
>>> any credit card number ;)
>>>
>>> It's up to you, if you want to open a new door or keep it closed.
>>>
>>> Have a good one.
>>>
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *B&C VIP Studio*
>>> Artist Pool
>>>
>>>  -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
>>> From: Sebastian Kowalski <l...@sekow.com>
>>> Date: Sun, September 22, 2013 4:54 am
>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>
>>> hey b&c vip studio artist pool…
>>>
>>> would be nice having some more information about that studio.
>>> its a bit weird being a start up studio with places in ny, lon, van and
>>> mexico city.
>>> as good talent is rare to find, you should put a bit more effort in it.
>>>
>>> maybe its just me, but that call sounds a bit blatant for my taste.
>>>
>>> take care
>>>
>>>  -sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 22.09.2013 um 04:41 schrieb B&C Artist Pool <
>>> softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com>:
>>>
>>> If for some reason your mail to artist.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com or
>>> studio.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com is being rejected, please try again.
>>> We are moving the server as we are recieving more applications than
>>> expected.
>>>
>>> Thank you and sorry for the inconvinience.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>> *B&C VIP Studio*
>>> Artist Pool
>>>
>>>
>>>   -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
>>> From: Sebastien Sterling <sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, September 21, 2013 7:14 pm
>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>
>>> Hello, What does B&C stand for :) ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 September 2013 02:10, Emilio Hernandez <emi...@e-roja.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great!  Count me in!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/9/21 B&C Artist Pool <softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com>
>>>>
>>>>>  Hello Softimage Community artists.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are a new studio gathering talent all around the globe.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are looking for talented freelance artists or small studios (2-10
>>>>> artists).  Not only in 3D modeling, rigging, animation, particles, etc.
>>>>> But we are also looking for Comp, Colorists, Concept, Shooting Board,
>>>>> Motion Graphics, Match Movers, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Softimage is our preferred 3D software and will be used as the main 3D
>>>>> core in our Pipeline.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are interested or know some one that might be, please send an
>>>>> e-mail to the following adresses, depending if you are a freelance or a
>>>>> small studio, with the subject: invite-me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Freelance: artist.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com
>>>>> Small studio: studio.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *B&C VIP Studio *
>>>>> Artist Pool
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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