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On 23 September 2013 01:10, Guillaume Laforge <
guillaume.laforge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > The reason we decided to post a job offer in this list, is more than
> evident.
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> You never said it was a job offer.
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> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 6:29 PM, B&C Artist Pool <
> softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com> wrote:
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>> As Mirko said.  We are all grown ups here.
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>> The reason we decided to post a job offer in this list, is more than
>> evident.
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>> We appreciate your feedback in the way we are handling our talent search.
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>> You believe that we are not serious because we have a page with HTML
>> tables, it's ok.
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>> You don't like the "Intrigue" and "Drama" as you say, It is ok.
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>> You believe it is a scam.  Ok no problem also.
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>> And as we are a studio, yes, we have a limited number of seats.
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>> We respect your feelings, and we also respect if you don't want to send a
>> simple e-mail to find out more.
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>> But we are not changing our strategy.  As you can see, a lot is being
>> filtered out already by itself.
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>> People that really want more information are sending the mail, and they
>> are being attended properly.
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>> Our main 3D core is based on Softimage and that is why we decided to post
>> to this mailing list in first place, a list which we respect.
>>
>> Here it goes again:
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>> *We are looking for freelance talented artists, or small studios (3-10),
>> that are proficient and skilled in Softimage for our studio.
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>> *If you are interested in who we are, and what we are offering, send an
>> e-mail to artist.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com*
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>> And you can decide if you take the next step or not into our recruitment
>> process.
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>> Again quoting Mirko.
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>> "We are all grown ups here".
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>> Thank you for your time,
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>> Sincerly
>>
>> *B&C VIP Studio*
>> Artist Pool
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>>  -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
>> From: Sebastian Kowalski <l...@sekow.com>
>> Date: Sun, September 22, 2013 1:08 pm
>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
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>> what eric said is how I feel about that too.
>> from my experience there is no such thing like a closed pool. in an
>> industry living from fresh ideas, exclusivity is kinda unproductive.
>> everybody is looking for talent..
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>> nevertheless, this is still a good place for job offers and I do wish you
>> a successful start.
>>
>> -sebastian
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>> Am 22.09.2013 um 21:33 schrieb Christopher Crouzet <
>> christopher.crou...@gmail.com>:
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>> With your lack of transparency, your elusive descriptions, you betting on
>> people's curiosity, and your choice of catchy lines such as "VIP",
>> "talents", and "seats are limited", it sounds like all you're trying to do
>> is to catch the ones still hoping for the American dream. It's really just
>> missing a blinking yellow "FREE!!!" tag on a red background, and you're
>> done.
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>> Just saying that whatever your thing is, you've been doing very well at
>> managing to make it sound not trustworthy in every possible way.
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>> PS: and it has been scientifically proved that websites using HTML
>> <tables> for non-tabular data can't be serious.
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>> On 22 September 2013 21:02, B&C Artist Pool <
>> softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com> wrote:
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>>> Hello Eric.  Yes our site is just one week old as we are new!
>>>
>>> And yes, neither we have seen this before for 25 years.
>>>
>>> All we can say is that the kitchen has been cooking this for about two
>>> years ago from now.  And it is time to start delivering the dishes.
>>>
>>> We can tell you what we are not.
>>>
>>> We are not a talent place site.
>>> We do not charge artists any fee.
>>> We are not a site that will ask you to enroll and pay a subscritpion, so
>>> other studios can come up and see your profile.
>>>
>>> We are a new studio gathering talent all over the globe.
>>>
>>> Seats are limited.  Once we have our team completed, we will stop
>>> sending invitations and we will announce it here.
>>>
>>> What pill will you take?
>>>
>>> The red pill, or the blue pill?
>>>
>>> Send the mail and discover what is behind that old corridor with light
>>> at the end that is at our site.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> *B&C VIP Studio*
>>> Artist Pool
>>>
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>>>  -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
>>> From: Eric Lampi <ericla...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sun, September 22, 2013 11:19 am
>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>
>>> Sorry, but to not personally introduce yourself is weird, especially on
>>> this list. I don't think I have ever seen such a request in the 15 or so
>>> years I have been on the list.
>>> So I would like to ask you a couple questions:
>>>
>>> What is your name? Where are you currently based? Is your business model
>>> to act as a placement/talent scout?
>>>
>>> Your website appears to be only about a week old. Also, on that website
>>> there are no links. No reference to any credits, clients, work or contact
>>> info. Sorry to be so cagey, but on a few occasions I have entertained a few
>>> vague requests like yours in the past, thinking they were a legit studio
>>> only to find out it was just someone who wants a list of artists to act as
>>> a go-between of some kind between the artists and other studios.
>>>
>>> A little transparency would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Eric
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>>> Freelance 3D and VFX animator
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>>> http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work
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>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM, <softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Sebastian,
>>>>
>>>> We are working hard to create something different, where a lot of
>>>> effort and hard work has been put into, just to reach the step of start
>>>> sending invitations.
>>>>
>>>> We cannot reveal the curtain so easy.
>>>>
>>>> We decided to post here first, knowing that this one would be a tough
>>>> bone to chew.  Most of the artists here are experienced and very high
>>>> skilled.
>>>>
>>>> And we are not asking for weird or strange stuff at this moment.  All
>>>> we are saying is to send an e-mail to an address if you are interested.
>>>>
>>>> We can't see how this will harm you in anyway.
>>>>
>>>> So if you are curious, the least you can do is send an e-mail and see
>>>> what happens next.
>>>>
>>>> What we can assure you, is that we are not going to ask you to give
>>>> away any credit card number ;)
>>>>
>>>> It's up to you, if you want to open a new door or keep it closed.
>>>>
>>>> Have a good one.
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *B&C VIP Studio*
>>>> Artist Pool
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>>>>  -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
>>>> From: Sebastian Kowalski <l...@sekow.com>
>>>> Date: Sun, September 22, 2013 4:54 am
>>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
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>>>> hey b&c vip studio artist pool…
>>>>
>>>> would be nice having some more information about that studio.
>>>> its a bit weird being a start up studio with places in ny, lon, van and
>>>> mexico city.
>>>> as good talent is rare to find, you should put a bit more effort in it.
>>>>
>>>> maybe its just me, but that call sounds a bit blatant for my taste.
>>>>
>>>> take care
>>>>
>>>>  -sebastian
>>>>
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>>>> Am 22.09.2013 um 04:41 schrieb B&C Artist Pool <
>>>> softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com>:
>>>>
>>>> If for some reason your mail to artist.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com or
>>>> studio.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com is being rejected, please try
>>>> again.  We are moving the server as we are recieving more applications than
>>>> expected.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you and sorry for the inconvinience.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *B&C VIP Studio*
>>>> Artist Pool
>>>>
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>>>>   -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: Looking for artists
>>>> From: Sebastien Sterling <sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Sat, September 21, 2013 7:14 pm
>>>> To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
>>>>
>>>> Hello, What does B&C stand for :) ?
>>>>
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>>>> On 22 September 2013 02:10, Emilio Hernandez <emi...@e-roja.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great!  Count me in!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> 2013/9/21 B&C Artist Pool <softimage.l...@bcvipstudio.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hello Softimage Community artists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are a new studio gathering talent all around the globe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are looking for talented freelance artists or small studios (2-10
>>>>>> artists).  Not only in 3D modeling, rigging, animation, particles, etc.
>>>>>> But we are also looking for Comp, Colorists, Concept, Shooting Board,
>>>>>> Motion Graphics, Match Movers, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Softimage is our preferred 3D software and will be used as the main
>>>>>> 3D core in our Pipeline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are interested or know some one that might be, please send an
>>>>>> e-mail to the following adresses, depending if you are a freelance or a
>>>>>> small studio, with the subject: invite-me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Freelance: artist.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com
>>>>>> Small studio: studio.invitat...@bcvipstudio.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *B&C VIP Studio *
>>>>>> Artist Pool
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